So sub or not to sub


A simple question:

Is adding a sub to an already-good two -channel system a sellout of sorts? My de Capo monitors are wonderfully kaleidoscopic, yet when I throw my ancient Velodyne CH-8 into the mix, I DO get that lower presence that the monitors just can't deliver.

I feel like I'm cheating, though. Like getting a truck with an automatic transition.

Thoughts on adding a sub?

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I'm a believer and use subs in my main system, but I used to own deCapos and I don't think that they're particularly well suited to mate with subs. The deCapo's top end is gently rolled and provides a really good octave to octave balance when used full range. So good, IME, that you don't really notice the roll-off.... until you add subwoofers.

Having spent a fair bit of time with just such a set-up, I could never get a satisfying balance from a deCapo/subwoofer system.

Just one more data point for you.

Marty

PS If you do want a full-range system, there are excellent, modestly priced mains that work well with subs - provided you get the proper set-up down. IME, that's much easier with bass management software like Audyssey. Bottom line: I love subs but I think they're best utilized in a system designed to integrate subs from the get-go. Simply adding a sub to an existing system may work out well, but IME that's hard to feel confident about before the fact.
Get a used REL if you are cost sensitive (or even if you're not) as they leave your main speakers unmolested yet enhanced, not unlike my cousin Shirley. You don't need the greasy digital fingers of "bass management" wrapped around the throat of your lower mids and bass to get great sound as you should simply pay attention to sub placement, the sub's frequency range, and level. Note that a good sub "charges" the listening room with the warmth of ambient and instrumental lower frequencies and makes everything sound more realistic, thus making the listener a better person.
Wolf, that's what I thought. Now - in relation the the two monitors, where's the best place Shirley would say to put the sub in the room?
Agree with Wolf, sort of. I'm not sure I agree about Shirley but, about a sub, yea. Try to get a sub with speaker level connections and run the signal out of the amp speaker taps. Phase and gain are all you really have to set. I know REL likes their x-over set below the mains low freq but, I've had success with my x-over all the way open.
Simao, try placement of the sub between the speakers and a little ahead of the plane their on.