REL subwoofer with old McIntosh tube gear?


Anyone using a REL sub with old McIntosh tube gear? If so, how do you have it wired? I'm trying to get rid of a 60 cycle hum when the amps are on...
neo-luddite
I'm trying to get rid of a 60 cycle hum when the AMPS [emphasis added] are on...
More detail is needed. First, are you saying that you are using a pair of monoblock amps? Also, what model is/are the amp or amps, and the sub? And am I correctly interpreting that you are connecting the sub using its speaker-level inputs, and that the hum is emanating from the sub?

Also, some of the vintage McIntosh amps have both a "gnd" (ground) terminal and a "com" (common) terminal adjacent to their 4, 8, and 16 ohm output terminals. If that is the case here, which one of them are you connecting the REL's black wire to ("gnd" or "com"), and is there a jumper on the amp between those two terminals?

If both of those terminals are present but there is no jumper between them, adding a jumper may fix the problem. That possibility is reinforced by your statement that the two-prong adapter made the hum much louder.

Regards,
-- Al
Thanks. The Amps are Mc-60s and I've got the REL T-7 wired to the speaker outputs..8ohm/com. I tried jumpering to ground..no change.

The hum is pretty slight but definitely there only when the amps are on..
When connecting a single sub to two monoblock amps REL generally recommends connecting the sub's black (ground) wire to the chassis or other ground point of the preamp. The red and yellow wires would be connected as they apparently are presently, one of them to the 8 ohm tap of one amp and the other to the 8 ohm tap of the other amp.

I would NOT try that, however, without Gnd and Com being jumpered together on both amps. Connecting the black wire to preamp ground, or for that matter to Gnd on one of the amps, without the jumpers being in place would result in the sub seeing a floating input from each amp having no return path to the secondary of the output transformer. The result would probably be a huge hum.

The schematic appearing on the last two pages of the manual may help to clarify that.

Regards,
-- Al
Thanks Al. Are you sating I should jumper both amps from common to ground even though the black wire from the REL is only connected to one?

Thanks very much. I'm assuming there should never be a hum...even a slight one?
I'm saying that if I am correct in assuming that the red wire from the sub is connected to the 8 ohm tap of one amp, and the yellow wire from the sub is connected to the 8 ohm tap of the other amp, then what you should try is connecting the black wire to a ground point on the PREAMP, such as a chassis screw. But you should only do that with the COM and GND terminals of each of the two amps jumpered together.

Regards,
-- Al