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I use also the Audioquest Slip cables a lot. They are very cheap, but mann they are awesome for not a lot of money. I used the Slip 14/4 for the bi amp configuration with the 929. 7 dollar for 1 metre.

The question is what would the system sound like without the Audyssey XT-32?

The 929 without my way of XT-32 is huge. You have a much less sharp focus, a more clinical sound, less dynamics, less resolution, les decay.

The new Onkyo will not have Audyssey anymore. But...they sound a lot more musical. For people with less insight it is more easy to get a good result.

But Audyssey can give you an even more stunning sound. Without Audyssey the stage is less wide and deep. I Always try to use every single tool tot the max. That is why I test so much. To find out what is possible and were are the limitations.

You need to use all the good properties. And you have to limit the limitations as much as possible.

That's my point..."Without Audyssey the stage is less wide and deep." So, if I compared speakers with Audyssey to speakers without Audyssey, all things being equal, the speakers with Audyssey will have a wider and deeper soundstage.

06-17-14: Bo1972
The 929 without my way of XT-32 is huge. You have a much less sharp focus, a more clinical sound, less dynamics, less resolution, les decay.

And in your post earlier today,

I have my own way of measurment. This I won't share.

So what's the point? Isn't the purpose of the forum to share information allowing others to learn. I guess you just want everyone to know what it is like to live in your universe.