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Is a deal a deal?

Hello Audiogoners,

I have been sitting on the side lines for the past two years. The several posts on this site are both educational and enjoyable. Audiogon is a place where audio and home theater hobbyists meet and share common interests.Right?

The point that I am making is,has anybody lied on a deal that they made with you? Over the past two years I have purchased twelve items on this site. All twelve have been deals with people who are honest and represenative of Audiogons policies. This said, shopping here is mostly free of worries.

However, last month, I had a deal pending with an Audiogoner. We came to an agreed figure, exchanged adddesses, and phone numbers and planned a time to call to finalize things. We had e-mailed each other several times back and forth. An hour before he was supposed to call me, he e-mailed me saying there was aproblem with the man that he was buying his replacement amp from. Meanwhile, an identicle ad was found on e-bay from a friend of mine. This individual uses two e-mail address, and but is still known as Nick.

The point that I am making is this individual shouldn't be abusing this site. We are composed of honest people sharing the same interests.This was so upsetting that when I read a new listing of his today, that indicated his e-bay address I notified him that he is a lier!

If you make a deal stick with it,you will also make a friend!These are my findings.

Happy Listening,
Jerry
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kthomas
911 posts
 
I agree that "offer+acceptance=deal", but that only holds between up-front dealing in good faith. "It's not a deal until the check clears" is the rule on the wild frontier.

I love it when a deal goes well, start to finish, and most of mine have. I think it's great when two human beings can trust each other and it pays off for both. Call me sentimental, but it makes everything seem a bit better. However, dealing with people who ask inane questions, who lowball you, who back out, etc. is all part of the game and, IMO, no worse than dealing with dealers who don't give you the time of day unless you've got $10K in your hand or who obviously know less about their products than you do. AND, the price is a lot better by putting up with inane questions and people who back out of deals. -Kirk

bwyoung
143 posts
 
I agree with Kthomas, first with the fact that I get a sense of satisfaction when a deal goes according to someone's word alone and an agreement is made knowing there are no real reprocusions to backing out except that your word is no longer something you can be proud of. Like the handshake of old, it's only as good as the one making it. I have made several deals on audiogon and have had very good luck. Yes, there are low-life crawling around in every arena regardless of the safeguards on this or any site. I also agree with Kthomas that the same problems can and do exist with audio dealers and local face to face deals. People is people.
jvia
195 posts
 
The only thing I don't like about reading this thread and another one that is currently going is the apparant distrust being shown. Let me say I have been truly burned exactly one time in what I am sure is over 500 deals, and even then I just think the guy died or something, because it was only $60, not really worth screwing someone over. If anything, buying and selling on the sites has reinforced my faith in the basic goodness of people, especially audio people. I don't know how many times I have sent or been sent goods telling or being told to look at it 1st before
you pay. Yeah there are always sharks in the water, but they only go for the weakest of prey.
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sagger
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Jerry...see my post "members without scrupples"
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