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Shunyata Hydra

Ok, I need to make it clear that I am no philistine. I hear the difference between many items with nuanced ability to alter sound quality and fully agree that one must play with every part of their set up to get the sound they want. However, I have played with my shunyata power snakes and hydras in a million ways with many components and in many rooms and have tried floating the ground before and after the hydra and many many more variations. AFTER EVALUATING THE SOUND BOTH WITH COMPUTERS AND MANY UNBIASED EARS I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER THAT SHUNYATA POWER PRODUCTS HAVE ANY SONIC INFLUENCE WHATSOEVER. When I started buying shunyata products I was told by a salesman, "the impact of shunyata hydras and power snakes are in no way subtle." I will dispute that claim with anyone. I spent good money on these parts and wanted them to work very strongly. I can say without reservation their effect is nil. I'm staggered that so many are convinced of their worth.
jamiek
jea48
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Zd542,

06-02-13: Zd542
Jea48,

This is what I said,

"06-02-13: Zd542
I don't think he was saying that all power cords and line conditioners don't work, it was just the Shunyata products."

This is what you said I said,

"I don't think he was saying that all power cords and line conditioners don't work, it was just the products.
06-02-13: Zd542"

Sorry, Zd542.

I cannot explain the ommision. I copied and paste the sentence from your post.
By chance did you edit your post and add Shunyata before Bryoncunningham posted his post?

I copied yours before Bryoncunningham posted his message.

Sorry again, I am at a loss.
Jim
zd542
5,339 posts
 
Its really no big deal at all. The only reason I mentioned it as something other than a typo is that when you cut and paste, you usually miss words at the end and not in the middle. Its clear that you meant no offence, and to be honest, I shouldn't have been so picky.
guidocorona
4,298 posts
 
Hmm, could the wires and PC that the OP is using be counterfits and not original Shunyatas? It is one possible explanation for a perceived sonic invariance.
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jfrech
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Guidocorona...interesting post...glad you asked...I guess we'll soon see.

Jamiek has a pretty nice system...it is certainly of quality that most usually hear rather dramatic differences...I used to have a Esoteric DV 50s and Shunyata certainly helped that player...

Bryon, I'd add a #5 to your list... noise the components generate and send back into the line...sometimes this can be substantial...especially with some digital gear or switch mode power supplies...
bryoncunningham
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06-02-13: Jfrech
Bryon, I'd add a #5 to your list... noise the components generate and send back into the line...sometimes this can be substantial...especially with some digital gear or switch mode power supplies...
I completely agree, and I should have put that on my list.

And to be completely clear about my view, I do in fact believe that addressing power issues can make a substantial, even major, improvement in SQ. It's just that I didn't experience a major improvement from my Hydra 8. In fact, I experienced a bigger improvement in SQ from various DIY power tweaks, which are discussed in this thread. The beneficial effects of clean power are also discussed in this thread.

Having said that, I believe that the effects of power products, beneficial or otherwise, is variable and system dependent.

Bryon
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