vacuum tube shelf life

If one buys tubes that do not measure in the, "NEW" range,
on a
calibrated tester, but were described as, "NOS," either the
seller didn't know what they were selling, or they lied.
I've bought almost a hundred tubes, off eBay(some from
Germany, Australia, Argentina), in the past 9 years,
searching for the most accurate sounding/best sound stage
combination of phase splitter & driver, for my Cary
monoblocks and the output stage of a BAT VK-D5. All
purchased have been 6SN7GT variants, from
the 40's(ie: TungSol round plates, Sylvania 6SN7W tall/metal
base, Ken-Rad CKR, Sylvania VT-231 bottom getter and so on)
with the exception of a few Siemens CCa grey shields, from
the early 60's, for the CDP. I've found that if one
communicates with the seller and knows what to ask; it's
easy to tell if they know what they're doing. Everything
purchased as, "NOS" tested above, "new"
and those that I kept have given me many hours of musical
enjoyment, proving reliable(long term). The CCa's have
been going strong, for over 6 years, in the CDP. I've also
got a collection of tested back up tubes, for when the ones
in use are expended(the inevitable). My output tubes are
GE 6550As, from the early 70's(purchased NOS/not on eBay).
There's nothing to
dry up, wear or leak out of a vacuum tube, that's stored on
a shelf, outside of the possible entrance of air. If it
tests,
"GOOD" and not gassy, there's no reason it can't
perform as long, or longer, than a new production tube.
Like everything else: CAVEAT EMPTOR

If one buys tubes that do not measure in the, "NEW" range, on a calibrated tester, but were described as, "NOS," either the seller didn't know what they were selling, or they lied.

Exactly. Either way they were not NOS. My life is far too busy to hassle w re-packing, paying for shipping, and HOPING to get a refund. I buy tubes from dealers w established reps on A'gon or their own web presence and a long history of honesty. I'm glad you've had good luck on ebay, Rodman. I was just venting (pun intended). You are of course correct, as long as the vacuum is maintained, and there are no shorts, unused tubes don't deteriorate over time. IOW, if they are good, they will stay good, assuming that they do not get physically damaged. So if you stock up on new tubes now, and leave them in a safe place, they should be fine when you use them 2, 5, 10, or 50 years from now.

when it rolls off the shelf, the life's over.

Czarivey,

So sadly true. When I got my current phonostage, a friend gave me pairs of 5751s, Telefunken ECC83s, and Amperex Bugle Boy 12ax7s to try out in place of the RCA blackplates that came with the phonostage. I had the tubes in a small box on a shelf. I accidentally knocked the box off the shelf. Although the floor is carpeted some tubes banged against each other and cracked. As it turned out it was one of each type that was destroyed so I had no matching tubes.

In the end, I settled on Telefunken ECC 803S'. I actually found a truly NOS pair that were still in their aging boxes.

Schubert died years ago.

So did the composer.