Burned out hi fi salesman

Washline, very nice comments. I completely agree that the current
circumstances for dealers are very harsh and difficult, on one side the
Internet and Best Buy on the other hand a very spezialized market. I have
almost stopped going to dealers for the same reasons as Jactoy. I actually
never went to a dealer to just listen and then buy on Agon. If I decide to go
used, I usually just go for it, try it out for a while and sell it if I don't like it. If I
listen at a dealer and like it, I will buy there. Your idea of a present is very
good one for the failed opportunites where you did not enjoy the gear
enough, but where you would like to keep good relations.

Anyway, I still think that the current business model would support a very
different solution, very similar to Matrix suggestions. I would not mind paying
for a two month home demo, if that means I can return it in case I don not
enjoy the piece. In fact, Cinematic_Systems' approach of home demoing is
quite similar as claimed on his website. I just don't agree that it is the
Audiphile market that needs to change, but rather I thik retailer need to adapt
to the changing and more diverse market. The dealer then becomes a real
service provider for demos and consultant to indentify what is needed to
reach a good sound (room analysis, identifiaction of problems and solutions).

As always, best wishes,

Rene

Hello Quixotic_quest

Ï will defend your right to "Freedom of speech" no matter what! Be well, and may you have plenty of time to listen to whatever kind music and equipment you like.

Cheers,
Nocaster

why do people like quixotic quest make such negative comments on such an obviously subjective thing as music?

To preface what I say. I work in a home theater department at a big box retailer. I am a 22 year old college student and have been in this hobby for a little over a year. From the consumer side of things in the town that I live only has a couple of hifi stores. When I recently wanted to purchase an amplifier I decided to stop by one of the local dealers. The salesperson treated me as if I was if I was wasting their time. Granted that at the time there was not anyone else in the store and I was really interested in purchasing one of the amplifiers that they were selling. It was like pulling teeth trying to get a demo of said amplifier. Needless to say that they will not ever get my business and I spent $3300 on the amplifier elsewhere. This was my experience and I think that the lesson to be learned is for salespeople to get excited about what they are selling. If you do not want to demo the equipment that you sell, then why bother to work there. It is obviously not that person's calling in life so they should find what that is. I understand that there are a lot of people that just want to waste time. There are tons of people like that coming to see retailers every day. However, the one or two that actually want to purchase something that they will enjoy make working worth while. The other thing is when you go to some of these retailers you have about a fifty-fifty shot of finding someone that really cares and gets excited about what they are doing. The problem with a lot of retailers is that most of the employees are kids like myself that are putting themselves through college and they really do not know or care about what it is that they are selling, it is more or less just another college job as opposed to a career. (As a college job though, it is a lot of fun showing people what they can get for a little more money than an HTIB). Does it approach the sonic realism that most of us has with most of our systems? Probably not, but it is enjoyable to give somebody a good demo of what a decent system sounds like. With that being said the reason I got into this hobby is that someone showed me an incredible demo of a 2-channel system that gave me that "I have to have that" feeling. Hopefully, when I graduate in May and get a "career" I will be able to find a shop that has a salesperson that is as enthusiastic about this hobby as we all are.

How many 22 y/o college students purchase $3300 amps? I think the salesman was being a salesman. I suppose if a Posrche dealer didn't want to take you on a test drive it was because he's not into cars. I hate to say it but at 22 unless you roll up in a H2 and look like you have cash you wont get much attention from hi end dealers. Just ask a few intelligent questions, show you know what you are talking about, bring cd's, and you'll get good service.