12AX7 vs. 5751


I'm getting my first tube pre (Counterpoint 7.1) this week or early next week, and of course I have start fiddling with it ;-) I've been reading Joe's Tube Lore (http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/faq/joes-tubes.html) and the 5751 caught my eye, however I see statements like "lower gain that the 12AX7" and lower "mu" (what is mu?). Anyways could I use the 5751 tubes in my Counterpoint without causing any damage? altavistaaudio.com mentions nothing about the 5751.

thanks
greenp3
I use a matched set of 5751 NOS RCA from 1959 in my Belles 21A preamp. I went to them from Mullard 12AX7. I found no audible difference in gain with my system. I found the RCA's to provide a little more air and detail between instruments, a little more depth of soundstage and very nice extention and tightening of bass. I got these from Vintage Tubes and have been very happy with the upgrade.
5751s will work fine on a 12ax7 line stage.
OTOH, on a phono stage, you need all of the 12ax7 gain.
Good luck
Typically you can use 5751s where 12ax7s are called for. The 5751s having less gain just gives your volume control a little more flexibility, ie you can turn your volume control without a little adjustment giving you a big volume increase as 12ax7s give in some applications. With my preamp there is a noticable difference in gain between these two tubes. 5751s were speced for the military and are very rugged. They also sound very nice, IMHO. I too like their air and detail and I would add bass response. Just to make sure, send altavista an email, they are the experts on Counterpoint equipment.