Not Another NuForce thread......

Dear Nuforce supporters, please do not second guess what you are hearing based on Audio Feil or some of the other negative posters.

First of all Audiofeil has listed and still lists Nuforce on his website and now says: that Nuforce amplifiers are over priced, and under performing and now all of a sudden he is not carrying them.

Either Bill's hearing has suddenly shifted or the man has no integrity and jumped on the Nuforce bandwagon to make a quick buck.

Talk about overpriced his cartridge man isolator sells for $150 bucks for a little bit of foam!

How come he features lines on his website which he doesn't sell such as Nuforce, Usher, and many others?

The new V2 versions Bill has never heard,have only shipped recently. The V2 versions are dramatically better than the Se version which were really good. The new V2 product has propelled Nuforce into the class of some of the world best amplifiers.

We Sell some very expensive class A and Class A/B amplifiers which are very respected products, and many of our customers are going with the Nuforce, so draw your own conclusions.

How can a set of amplifiers which cost 1/2 to 1/4 of the price of these mondo expensive amplifiers be over priced, if anything the Nuforce products are a bargin!

In fact I am actively searching the market to see if I can find a better sounding more expensive solid state amplifier that can beat the overall superb sound quality of the Nuforce, and I am looking at amplifiers which sell for $10,000.00 to $20,000.00!

I am sure Bill will chime in and accuse me of being a shameless self promoter, but I will take a shameless self promoter who believes in his products than this old fool who knows nothing and has no integrity to boot.

I want to interject in this thread;

The discussion of why a product was dropped from a line-up should never be discussed in the public. In the end - it does no one any good. Unless there are downright criminal things going on that can be backed up with irrefutable evidence, I'd suggest keeping such discussion confidential/private.

Just a friendly suggestion based off of some first-hand experience... take it for what you feel its worth.

"NuForce bested my ARC VT100MKII hands down. An immediate knockout"
That was certainly not my experience. I had the 8.02's, and a VT100 mk2 at the time. I found the Nuforces boring, and sterile compared to the ARC. They were initially impressive sounding, but I did not want to listen long, unlike the multi hour sessions with the ARC. They just did not sound as natural as the ARC. But then, the ARC was more than twice the price, so it should have been better, and was.

9rw,
have you ever thought about getting a life? It could seriously improve your general mood.
We are just talking bloody hi-fi, if you are not interested in Nuforce you could go elsewhere, take up golf, get a vacation, a better job, make a friend, just stop insulting people for no reason.
I really feel sorry for you, for the way you are intruding this thread and for all the people you have insulted

jb8312,
Nuforce is an extremely revealing amp; it cannot compensate for poor recordings. If there was an amp that could make "Californication" sound properly million of people would buy it...
NF amps are also extremely fussy about all the ancillary equipment. Yesterday I was contacted by a member of a UK forum who was curious abut the NF, as he wanted a summer amp to get besides his McIntosh 275; he asked me to come to an audition. We spent a few hours of good time listening and we did some cable swapping. The differences we heard were very noticeable to say the least.
I was a bit nervous about his judgment because my rig is totally American:
Opus 21>NF ref9SE v2>gallo ref3II
so the sound of my rig is very, very lively, the way I like it, but totally different from the general British sound, very polite (always please and thank you) and laid back. To make a long story short, the next day he went all the way to the NuForce dealer and not just for the summer, but for all seasons...