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BAT Preamps, why such polarized opposite opinions?

I've never heard a BAT preamp. But I've heard enough about them on this and other sites. What is it about their sonics that people either tend to really like or really dislike them?

I've heard criticisms that they lack air, treble openness, life. I've been told the VK32SE is too dark, too weighted to the bottom, no air or delicacy on top.

I've heard these polarized opinions from audio salesmen as well, some who carried (carry) BAT. Let's just say I made alot of long distance calls to get a broad opinion.

But others love their sound and think they are fabulous.

I know what you're going to tell me - go listen to them yourself. Well, I live rural and it isn't easy to do.

So, instead, I'd like to get opinions across the spectrum from the Audiogon guys.

I'm using a Audio Research 100.2 with Dali Helicon 400's. I've tried Rogue, ARC, Sonic Frontiers, but haven't found the right preamp yet.
audiosoul
ghanson
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I would urge an audition with your amp before making a purchase if it is at all possible. I auditioned 2 BAT preamps inc a Vk-51 with a BAT VK-75Se. I had also heard the dealer's Hovland 100 on a previous occasion and was about ready to walk out on the BAT demonstration and opt for a different dealer when I was played a Nagra PL-p, much above my price range. It fit what with my system and my priorities best. Well, I left with a promise to return to buy it and did so though it took me 4 months. A patient, thoughtful dealer willing to work with you is in many cases your best option.
audiosoul OP
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Appreciate the responses so far. Yes, buying and selling if not to my liking is an option, but it unfortunately seems the economy has effected the audio market as well. I see lots of things that don't sell that I saw sell before.

I've looked through notes I have written down on comments about BAT preamps, and the negative ones are what bother me, especially those saying Dark, closed down, not open, airless, lack of treble sparkle and extension, emphasizes the bass, chesty coloration in voices and midrange. That's why I'm looking for more experiences with these units.

Forget the reviews and reviewers. They have their own agenda, so I don't really care what they have said.
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glai
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Currently have both the 51se and arc ref 3. The treble is closed in but it really opens up with the right power cord. I found Synergistic AC coupler or harmonix xdc or ESP essence really trim the fat at the bass and open up the treble. It has great bass and macrodynamics. Lots of features. It also sounds very fluid and direct.

It is a steal on the used market right now.
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audphile1
5,443 posts
 
Glai, just curioous what amp and spekers? thanks
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elberoth2
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I just have traded my BAT 51SE for a brand new ARC Ref 3.
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