Conrad Johnson Premier 12, how powerful?

Have you purchased the 12's? If not, shop for 8s' or 8a's. These 275 watt top of the line amps can often be had for $4000.00 to $5000.00 here on audiogon (original $ was about $18000.00). For a few more dollars you'd be getting alot more amp.

Hmmm... Now I'm discouraged to hear that the 12 is not quick. My impression from the reviews was the opposite, that they are quick, and quicker than previous CJ gear. I've only heard the MV60SE from CJ, and loved the quickness and overall presentation, but thought I could do better for the money.

Speed is relative and mostly a function of speaker/amp synergy. Coincidentally, I just got off the phone with Ed from cj and one of the subjects we touched upon was the speed improvement realized by using Teflon capacitors. So, given that you thought MV60SE was fast enough, I'm sure you will find the same with the Premier 140; but if ultimate speed is of concern, audition the cj LP140 with the Teflon caps.

To clarify, do you mean the LP140 has the Teflon caps but the 140 does not?

Lp140 (comprised of two lps70's) is a single chassis mon-bloc and does have the teflon caps. The premier 140 on the other hand is a single chassis stereo unit and does not contain the teflon caps.

Chuck