NuForce vs Red Wine

It is true that my experience with NuForce was a good 2 years ago. It was either the 8 or the first 9 model. Quite possibly they are much better now.

What hacked me off at the time was the RAVING the reviewers were doing about these amps when they were frankly pretty awful. Lesson was learned there.

I would personally take the RW amps over anything but SET. If you like SET they are indeed very similar, but do not match the spaciousness and holographic imaging qualities of the best SETs.

Paul,
Just curious did you hear the RW signature 30 or the new signature 30.2. The 30.2 is a big leap forward vs. the original 30 in many regards. I have also heard the new NuForce amps (Ref 9s). I wont say they were that bad sounding but the RWA is in an entirely different class when it comes to musicality, emotional involvement with the music, black background, and retrieval of fine details. The nuforces are rated at higher power but the RWA seems to play cleaner at higher volumes. The only bad thing about the RW is that they are always backlogged with orders. I had to wait around 5 weeks for mine but it was so worth it!
-Nate

I can not comment on the new Nuforce but I completely agree with Natewalker_2006 in describing RWA ( I've heard new 30.2 ).
I was very impressed .....& it is not an easy thing to do.

Mentioning your speaker system, a general description of the type of presentation you prefer, and maybe the type of music you listen to, might help regarding your question.

Just as important for anybody responding to such a query to clarify their opinion by either filling out the system section in their personal profile or giving a brief description of the system in which they auditioned the component in question. Example: Paulfolbrecht's comments would be so much more informative if we knew what speakers he was using.

It's no wonder many of the responses seem to be nothing more than brand loyalty. I think we can all agree that both of these amplifiers are some of the most creative designs that class D currently has to offer. I own one and auditioned the other. I didn't like the other in my system but powering a more forgiving and sensitive speaker system the other was simply stunning. Both of these amplifiers are very good.

Vic