How am I frying all my amps? Oscillating? Help


Hi. So I'm on my third amp this year.

I had an Adcom GFA-7000 for many years which I gave to a buddy for his birthday so I could get a Krell. The Adcom used to "hum" or "buzz" for five minutes then stop, then start again a few hours later. It wasn't noticeable with the music playing. Also, when nothing was playing, it would pop and hiss when the volume was turned all the way up as if the volume control was directly connected to the speakers and was shorting them or something. It ran for nine years and is still going strong today. It did none of these things when I first got it.

Then I got a Krell KAV-500. There was always something wrong with this amp because it wouldn't turn on when I first got it. Then it did turn on and I used it and it would hum like the Adcom and its volume control noises were even worse. Then it exploded and got sent to Krell for repair (still not back). Also, the Krell would make a horrible buzzing sound when only RCAs or XLRs were plugged into it, no speaker wire (and I tried a dozen different cables as it took only one to reproduce the problem). And when you muted or turned off the pre-amp, the thing would send a horribly loud buzz through the speakers. It did not do this when I first got it.

So I got a Classe CA-200. This amp was dead quiet and had zero problems. Two nights ago I noticed the volume control was being noisy. Last night I noticed the amp hum. So I looked around, and of course, now the thing exhibits all the same traits of the Krell except quieter: volume control noise, buzz when the pre-amp is off or muted, buzz with only ICs connected. I expect it will get louder until it blows up as per the Krell.

My system has changed dramatically between the three amps. There are two commonalities for all of them: Goertz MI2 Veracity Cu speaker cable and Thiel CS1.5 speakers. The Zobels are on the speakers ends of the Goertz cable.

In addition to the speakers and wire, the Krell and Classe have two more in common items: Cary Cinema 11 preamp and PS Audio Ultimate Outlet.

The Adcom never really died. The Krell and Classe look like its going to take about two months each but I find it difficult to believe a Line Conditioner or Preamp can cause this kind of damage. That leaves me to think they are oscillating due to the Goertz cable but I don't know nearly enough about it for this to be anything but an uneducated guess.

I leave everything on all the time. What am I doing to my amps? :-(

Thanks!
leoturetsky
I used to own a Classe CA-300 that when run single ended with certain pre-amps, a buzz was heard from the speaker. Ran balanced (XLR), and buzz never occured.

Also, make sure you don't have a source component hooked up that maybe connected to a RG coax TV cable. You'll get a hum for sure.
If this Classe has a balanced input and you are running single-ended, **make certain** that the unused pin (probably pin 3, assuming pin 2 is the same as the RCA, refer to the owner's manual for clarity on this point) of the XLR is grounded to pin 1! Else a buzz (humm) will result.
I had terrible hum problems related to the CATV box. I ran a ground from the offending box to the ground termination on my Furutech ETP-80, which is grounded to the ground in my dedicated circuit, and, blissful silence was the result.

Good luck and enjoy,

Dan
I am at this very moment conducting a listening session with new XLRs and new speaker cable. The XLRs did eliminate the buzz. I forgot about that, I'm pretty new to balanced.

The volume control on the Anthem could be heard in the speakers this time....

If the new speaker cables don't change anything, I'm plugging everything into the wall. If that doesn't work, everything in the chain has been replaced but the speakers. I have two new in box SCS4s so I guess they would come after that.

Grrrr...
So the amp never hummed after five hours of listening and watching last night.

I can still hear the volume control of the Anthem through the speakers (at the loud end of the spectrum only).

Right now I am turning up the volume very high and we'll see how that goes for an hour.