What Solid State PreAmp?


In the $5K-$10K range, what are the top PreAmps out there? I am looking for a musical PreAmp. I know of the following in NO particular order, but there might be others. Any feedback would greatly be appreciated.

BAT 42SE
McIntosh C200
Ayre K1Xe
Accuphase C2000 and C2410
Classe CP 700
Mark Levinson 320 and 326
MBL 5011
mikeaudio
As to those persons running a Mcintosh 402 - what preamp are you currently using ? Has anyone tried a C45 or C46 and, if so, what are the results and any comment as to the differences between the 2 (i.e. any advantage to spending the extra $ for the 46) ?
The c46 8-band eq highest control is centered on 4kHz. So if you need to roll off 10~20kHz highs, it isn't going to work well for that. Download the manual to see the eq curves. The c46 eq is more for fixing specific bumps in rooom acoustics.
Most of your room EQ is below 300Hz. 4kHz is actually quite high and useful for attenuating the hard edge of poor CDs or system shortcomings. Of course, anyone spending the money on a Mc-system would generally spend equivalent money on sources, ICs and cables to have a truly resolving system, not needing high frequency EQ, but some people DO like to mess with this.

Dave
Dave,

Getting back to the thread late, you obviously have a point that tube-rolling has questionable merit depending on your PoV and what's intended.

There are really two motivations: system tuning and better sonics overall.

The first case is a matter of practicality - everything is colored and putting together a completely neutral system from the get-go (or not if that's not what you want) is not all that likely. So you tune - with tubes, cables, etc. In this case, the manufacturer obviously can't pick the correct tubes.

The second case applies to tubes of certain types and variants that simply sound superior to all ears, or at least have certain standout qualities. In these cases, the maker often *could* provide "the best" or at least better-than-chinese-stock tubes and sometimes why they don't is a slight mystery. (Cost and availability are obviously the answers..)

However, it is not true that tube-rolling is always an option: it flat-out isn't with my Shindo preamp. Shindo-san owns essentially all of the signal tubes of this type there are, from what I understand, and there is really only one variant as well. To your point, he *does* very specifically voice the unit to sound as good as he possibly can, and he don't want nobody screwing with those tubes. In this sense, these unit are no different from a SS counterpart at all. Since they do use tubes, which are naturally far more linear devices than transistors (except JFets??), their circuits are simpler, parts count lower, and heck if the best sounding pres don't all seem to be valved.
Paulfolbrecht said:

"heck if the best sounding pres don't all seem to be valved."

Except, of course, Rowland.

Have fun playing with your tubes... ;-)

Dave