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I Feel Overwhelmed....Please Help

Hello, all.

I have recently decided to begin upgrading to stereo components around the entry level audiophile range, and move away from home theater stuff. I need help, as I had no idea until I began recently researching modern amps, preamps, integrateds, etc, just how huge the selection there is available.

Currently, I have the following:

Harman Kardon AVR 235 A/V receiver
Front L&R channels:
50 Watts per channel
@ <0.07% THD, 20Hz–20kHz into 8 ohms

Harman Kardon FL 8385 CD Changer

Klipsch KG 5.5 Floorstanding Speakers
frequency response 34Hz-20kHz±3dB
power handling 100 watts maximum continuous (500 watts peak)
sensitivity 98dB @ 1watt/1meter
nominal impedance 8 ohms
tweeter K-85-K 1" (2.54cm) Polymer dome compression driver
high frequency horn 90°x60° Tractrix® Horn
woofer Two K-1023-K 10" (25.4cm) Injected Carbon Graphite cones
Bass reflex via front-mounted port

Grado Labs SR325 Headphones

I use the receiver strictly for stereo music playback with my HK CD changer, or I play .flac or .mp3 files via input to the receiver from my computer sound cards optical digital output.

I want to keep my Klipsch speakers for now, along with my Grado cans, which I love. OTOH, I have not been particularly happy with the two HK components. Although the sound is not totally bad, it is a tad too bright, and it is fatiguing to listen over long periods of time. My room acoustics are not ideal either, with hardwood floors and drywall throughout. The listening rooms dimensions are 14'x13', with speaker placement along and near the corners of the 13' wall. At present, I cannot afford any of the acoustic treatments I see on the various internet sites.

From what I have seen so far, I think I would favor the warm, rich, clear sound of tube components. My Klipsch speakers are highly efficient at 8 ohms, so I should not need higher power, but I don't want to lose bass response either. I have not had much experience listening to higher end audio, but I really loved the sound of a friends McIntosh receiver (late 70's vintage), and another friends 60's vintage tubed HH Scott receiver, both systems paired with matching speaker pairs of the same brands respectively. Those experiences are why I believe I should really consider tube amps.

Would someone please be so kind as to suggest components that would allow me to play CD, CD-R, and digital music files based upon what I stated above? I suppose I could do without the ability to directly play back the digital files, but a CD player is a must have. Oh yeah, my budget is up to $3000, but I want to get as much as I can for the best possible price under that ceiling. Thanks.
chap_cat
mrjstark
1,112 posts
 
Walter knows what he is talking about.....one of the good guys. I bought my Dodd preamp from Walter and couldn't be happier with the service . Glad to hear that you are finally going to get your system that you craved after.......however , I think you jump the gun.......a little early but I get that way sometimes myself. Warranty is always a good thing and Walter's generous when you decide to trade-in for new toys.
I will send you something to read tonight (on the way from work now).

Enjoy new toys and tell us if the Santa was good to you this year.........or not.

Cheers
Mariusz
wwwrecords
172 posts
 
Congrats Chaps on your new system. How long till you take delivery? I had a 1301 hybrid for a short time and spent extensive time listening to a friends 502. I think you will enjoy it.

Post your thoughts and impressions when you have listened for a while.
blindjim
3,092 posts
 

Chap_cat

congratulations! There's no right or wrong here really. Just faster and slower.

Many tend to agree it all starts up front with the signal producer or source. Walter's dead on there. I was worried for a while.

The 'no' rack situation is too bad... but it's just for a bit. I hope you do your homework there too. it's a real aspect/portion of a system that truly does impact the sound. it took me a long time to come around on that topic too. There used to be a whole lot of "yeah, sure!" in me about so many things audio which just didn't seem to be real additive items... like wires, power conditioning, isolation and yeah, racks too.

One note you'll find here and elswhere when perusing various topics.... "Everything makes a difference."

...and it does. One of the very best moves I made to my system was adding a substantial component rack and sure wish I had done it sooner once I heard the after effects.

Until it's time for investing in a rack, there's plenty of short money solutions for isolation.... and that spinning tube CDP should have some nice footers gotten for it. there's tons of 'em out there but I'm sort of liking a cuople types.... Bright Star nodes, and Herbies Audio labs iso cups... his tube rings BTW really do work well and aid imaging... all the above items are like from $5 - $30 ea. and can be bought as you go .... herbie's also offers a 90 day in home trial of all his products. Cheap... lot's of time for audition... and a money back guarantee.... I'd call that a slam dunk for solid inexpensive gains in performance.

I'm glad you got with Walter in the end and you're on your way! Add another few weeks to the projected waiting time for the gear to run in as well, though I'd say it'll all be ready or very close to it in 150 - 300 hrs... perhaps less but I'd not get my hopes up.

Enjoy.
chap_cat OP
28 posts
 
I just want to thank all you fine folks that advised me over the past week. I look forward to sharing my viewpoints in the future, and also look forward to reading yours.

I know many of you recommended taking it slow, and that was good advice. The problem I had was that I had little chance of actually auditioning any HS amps in my region. Since I already liked that sound, I just felt I had to try it out. If I don't like it, then I will learn from it and sell it to someone else who might enjoy it.

I really believe I have made a good choice based on my circumstances.

BTW, I came in at $800 under budget, so I do indeed still have enough left to look at racks. I am a pretty fair woodworker, and have the tools. I may look for a good plan and just build one, or study others and come up with my own plan.
chap_cat OP
28 posts
 
Re not affording room treatments: you might want to consider some of the cheaper foam squares that are available - e.g. Sonex and other squares that are easy to place on a wall. Just adding this kind of thing at the first reflection points on your side walls can help with brightness and listener fatigue too. What I'm saying is that you might not need to invest much to get a significant improvement in that area.

I think Sonex is the answer for me at this point. Thanks for the input.
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