Jadis with Telefunken 12AX7/ECC83 tubes


Hello,
After hearing few recommendations of Jadis users I have tried Telefunken NOS 12AX7/ECC83 tubes in my Jadis equipment. I put three tubes in lins stage of JP80MC preamplifier and two tubes in JA80 monoblocks.
I have mixed impressions. These tubes gave very good top end extension and sparkle. The sound was more transparent and some new details appeared. Also the soundstage improved in 3D depth. But some magic of midrange has gone. The Telefunken tubes pushed this a little romantic tube sounding set more into very good solid state set. I am not sure if the overall effect is what I require. Jadis is for to die for midrange and installing the tubes like Telefunkens pushes this set into a little different presentation. I am not sure if I end with these tubes and I am curious other Jadis user experiences with signal tubes rolling.
milimetr
I tried Amperex, Mullard, Tele and four others I do not recall now - The Telefunkens NOS were the winners in my system for a DA50S both in the 12Au and 12AX sections.

Closer to them were a set of Amperex Buggle boys, a little dry in my opinion compared to the magic of the Telefunkens IMO.

Regards,
The magical part of Telefunkens is that they speak clearly and ennuciate. The tube halographic layered imaging is not all that Telefunken like, not at all. They are very neutral to cool and do the job with precision which may be in fact all you expect your tubes to do.
I like tubes that are alive with some soul, some emotion, that draw you in, and keep you listening. If a tube makes you want say "man is this a great stereo or what" that's where the the tough hunt for a decent pair, getting burned paying a hard dollars worth . The hassle of buying old tubes pays off big time and you forget the B.S. and I say it's worth it.
I hope for and find the emotion with 7136s in 12AU7 positions, by definition Amperex, and the best 5751 I have in my possession -the obvious pick, Raytheon's famed windmill version are telefunkens of 5751a, but a 1950s Sylvania triple mica blackplate truly warms your soul.
Non Jadis related but exemplary, I found that every time I have put Sylvania Chrome domes in my pre amp. I am referring to the W construction types. Only The top getter with gobs of chrome flashing tubes found on the very early 40s GTs or Ws or the oldest of the 6SN7. It has 6SN7W on base and an A etch in the glass n.b. not the GTA although I have a few pairs of GTAs with the W no rod type chrome dome which are very much like the others. The later GTAs have angled "triangle" plates and a very different sound. These tubes the chromed chrome domes really boxed plated with a welled t fin on the bacl which are facing each other, produces music that has the power to make everything going on no mtter how good or troubling only good. All seems well. Now that is one magical tube..
Pardon the poetic rapture.
If the recording blows , the magic ain't there, but anything is reasonably well engineered/pressed glues me to my seat and I just can't help a smug smile. Even with compositions I never loved, I love it then and listen to all of it.
A gear head maybe so who said that was so bad.
Mr M- Since you've brought up one of my favs(the Sylvania 6SN7W); I have to mention the three(really two) iterations of that tube, the shorter one of which I couldn't get out of my amps fast enough(no impact or depth, thin and strident). The tall bottles may have the black or metal base, a "W" or "A" suffix, but sound identical(and wonderful). You realize we just increased their price and decreased their availablity by letting that cat out of the bag, right?