Hi End Pre-Amp shoot out in central jersey?


Hi,

I have recently heard the DarTZeel pre in my system as compared to my highly optioned MA1 MK3, and thought it might be interesting to compare a few pre-amps.

I would be interested in hearing the ARC Ref3, the Dart again, as well as the latest from BAT, Halcro etc. Any takers?

Might not be a scientific experiment, but we might have fun and learn a thing or two.

Best,

Ron
rlips
I assume you mean line stages here? Or did you also compare the phono stages?

Can you share the differences, pros/cons of the Dart vs. the MA1 in your system? It's good to get a feel of these parameters to know how subsequent line stages compare to this "reference".
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I would love to be there but I'm in Southern Calif. I'm pretty loyal to ARC preamps, and have been pretty closed-minded about buying other brands. But I would've jumped at the chance to see firsthand how my Ref3 stacks up against other well regarded preamps.
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I have no Bat,
No Hallcro,
I know a preson with the Dartz,
I do have a one off ultramodded ARC SP6B last altered circa 1980, with a phonon that has approx. 200db of gain. The gain selection is soldered in the high position the switch byopassed. To get somethging resembling a noise floor it is clearly to much for but about one in a thousand 12ax7s quiet enough to tolerate. This kind of ultra low noise tube has yet to classified there are only few electron particle accelerators large enough toidetect the subtle vibrations that each tube naturally resonates at. Then assembling six would need six such tubes in a constant state long enough to find them makes it imposssible. It is also best siuted to nanovolt output cartridges the upside is that no a step up transformer is needed.
I have a very rich almost class A sounding ARC power amp the rare D100B. A solid state amp that was given up for dead a few years ago but judiscious small quick fixes have kept it going. Also circa 1981.
Absolutely nothing by ARC starting with the word reference. I have pleasant system of modestly priced gear with very few extravagances I think it sound great.
The one truly extrvagant part of my audio gear is a pile of 6 to 8 linear tracking turntables most don't work or if working don't sound very good.
So that leaves my good tube collecton. Do you have any gear that uses 6SN7s. I have a large variety and some of the best. 5751s, 7316s and other 12AU7 subs, And finally a goodly number of 12AT7s, 801s TFKNs, Brimar T brand 6060s and so on.
Finally some good copper braided wire reminding one of Jena lab cables.
Sorry but I'd have to refer you to the NJ Audiophile group. I was a member breifly.