CAT JL-3 Sig Mk2s direct from Wadia 781i?

Putting a Supratek pre between my Wadia 861 & CAT JL1's was an across the board positve.

I now have JL3's & will be auditioning a Doshi Alaap line stage & Aria full function. The latter has an optional remote.

Given your equipment choices you need to try a good pre, before deciding to go without one. If price is an issue & you don't presently own the JL3's, you may want to consider the JL2 plus pre if you prefer one as I do.

A buddy of mine is running Wadia straight into JL-2's with one of the most musical systems I have heard....and I'm a vinyl only guy.

If you are not playing vinyl, you can fine-tune most Wadias to work directly with your amp. The issue is that most DACs and CD players make **way** too much output voltage, causing the user to run low volume control settings. On a lot of DACs, this is a problem because the built-in volume control will cause a loss of resolution at the lower settings.

With most Wadias there are jumper switches (refer to the owner's manual) that allow you to reduce the output of the unit so you can get around this issue to a certain extent. With Wadias there is a noticable reduction in resolution when you run the volume below '85'; so in most cases you want to set the jumper switches for the lowest output that the unit can make. This will allow you to run higher volume control settings, and the results can be quite good.

BTW this issue with DACs is an argument for a quality preamp as most preamps have better volume controls than any digital unit with a digital volume control. In such a case you would run the DAC at full volume and the preamp would then be controlling the gain.

I have no idea why DAC/CD manufacturers insist on higher than standard outputs (the standard for AUX level inputs is one Volt); even if you run a passive volume control such high DAC outputs is completely misguided and interferes with your ability to get the best performance out of the setup- that's more than you need to clip almost any amplifier made!

fwiw, I owned the CAT Ultimate preamp, a wadia 301 with reference GNSC mods and a Joule preamp. I preferred the 301 with a preamp. I did not care for the 301 with the Joule preamp. The wadia and CAT Ultimate, for me, were an excellent match. Matched with a remote controlled preamp, I liked it with a CJ 16LS2 and a Thor mk1000. Good luck, Jeff

Atmasphere,

You have shown a very deep understanding of the subject,I am most impressed

I have mentioned it in the past , and fully concur with your observations.Bravo.