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ICE amps vs analog amps for bass

I'm currently running Legacy Helix loudspeakers. The bass and subwoofers are being driven by two pair of 500 watt ICE amplifier modules while the Midrange and treble frequencies are being driven by two pair of Levinson 436 amplifiers. While originally auditioning the speakers I heard them with analog amps on the bass, treble, and midrange sections and the sound was superb. However, I was assured that the ICE amps would be sufficient to drive the bass sections so I've given them a try. However the bass sounds funny. I don't hear the impact, definition, and subtle "spatial cues" that I know are in the recordings.
I partially am blaming the ICE modules. I'd sure like some input in solving the problem. I can "upgrade" to "analog" amps for the bass if I choose, but for space reasons and economic reasons, would prefer to continue to use the ICE amps. I'm considering Parasound JC-1s, or Bryston 7bs, for the bass if I switch.
Thanks for your help in advance.
Steve
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vman71
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As Guidocorona has already mentioned, it ultimately depends on how well it is implemented. I have a very special pair of Audio Magic Model 250 ICE-based amps and will NEVER let them go. Are they the "be all, end all" of amps...no...but I'm 100% sure that the budget it would take for me to replace them with something better is WAY out of my league.
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coffeey
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There we go with damping factor again.
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sgr OP
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Thanks again for all suggestions.

Coofeey, Thanks for reminding me about the damping factor thing again. I believe you'd be right.

Vman71, The ICE power, I've no doubt would be just the thing, however the ICE power amps installed in the speakers are not modified in any way, just raw as B&O designed them.

So I'll be looking at Bryston 7b monoss or a 14b stereo. Would I need to get the latest spec to use as bass amps? As I have space limitations, maybe I should look at 14b ssts. Has anyone compared the newest version to the older sst series? Can older amps be updated by Bryston?
Thanks again for all your input.
Steve
mclsound
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hi Steve
i have used the 14bsst on my dual Volt 12" and dual CSS 15" and will say if you are using for bass only,go wiyh a older pair of 7bst(98-01) only..the sst only improved on the mid,slightly,so save the money .
i have also recently purchased a ML (333) for my mid/hi
john
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coffeey
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No problem,i mean my amp is like 75 and as i said if its on the recording that's how it comes out,it depends on the recording.So also what im saying is i wonder if the bass from ice amps is really realistic or not,or are people just wowed by the big bad wham of these ice amps.It never impressed me.
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