Audio Research LS-16 Mk2 vs LS-17 preamp

Rwwear, just because a LS-16mkII sounds bad in one system doesn't mean it will sound bad in any other systems!
You take one experience and base your opinion on that and call it unbiased? Are you kidding me?
As mofimadness indicated, you would do well to read all of the good and positive reviews that have been written about the LS-16(audioreview.com,10audio.com,ciao.co.uk,youngblood systems.com to name a few)then you might figure out who can hear and who can't.

I have an LS16 MKI modded by GNSC with Amperex 7308 tubes and it's a killer line stage in my system. It was a good piece of gear in stock from but with the GNSC mods it's in another playing field.
I am now using a REF2 MKI modded by GNSC. The LS16 has been boxed in the closet for a few years now.

IMHO the LS-16 is a very good (but not great) preamp. If you want great you might look at the LS-26 - it's a giant killer.

EE read what I said before making comments and stop trying to play follow the leader. I have my opinion. I have nothing against ARC and have tried many of their products and have owned some. But ARC seems to dislike their own products because they replace almost every model or modify them every year or so.

Rwwear, What leader am I following? I have my opinion just like you have yours! and I stated it and mine was based on having owned the LS-16mkII for 3yrs. not one week!! Just because I happened to agree with someone else doesn't mean I'm playing follow the leader!
I have had and currently have ARC systems for 25 yrs.(not that I haven't tried other products)and find their products to be of high quality and a pleasure to listen to as has been voiced by many others.(again check the reviews)
As far as ARC disliking their own products because they continuely improve upon them, that's what their name indicates "research"(duh) They're constantly researching how to make their products better! That doesn't mean you have to change every time they do.(you don't buy a new car every year because GM Ford or Chrysler or whoever comes out with a new model do you?).
I currently have the LS-25mkII and am happy with it. I didn't feel a real urge to run out and buy the LS-26 when it came out even though I know it is better( yes I heard it)
Finally, they don't change their products every year. ARC products have a minimum 3yr.run