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Primaluna and Rogue

Hey all, I've done a lot of reading on the Rogue Audio and Primaluna gear. I Like what I've read, and I actually heard the m150's a while back and came away impressed. I have not personally listened to any Primaluna gear.

Do any of you have thoughts either way? I'm looking at Prologue 6 & 7, vs. Rouges m120 and M150. A lot will have to do with what becomes available on Audiogon, but I am prepared to purchase Prologue 6 new if necessary. Thanks
hawk28
sgunther
187 posts
 
I bought the Rogue M-150 about 5 years ago and have not looked back. They may not be overly tubey in the midrange but they are anything but bright sounding and i have Martin Logan Summit speakers which are very transparent to the source and require a lot of current. I chose the M-150 over M-120 for several reasons less heat equals longer tube life, can switch from ultralinear to triode via an external switch, more power and can bias output tubes individually via an bulilt in meter. I prefer the KT-88 tubes but throw in the 6550's occasionally for a change of pace. I am pretty sure you can also use EL-34 which suppposedly create a tubery sound but I have not tried them.I have never heard the Primaluna gear. Another bonus Rogue is made here in the good old USA.
adam18
670 posts
 
I am extremely happy with my Rogue Audio Cronus.
Mark and Nick @ Rogue are a pleasure to deal with.
Great product, great service and advice from the boys who designed and built the amp, and a wonderful sound of music as the amp drives my speakers. Life is good !!
learsfool
1,215 posts
 
If you don't think they sound bright, fine! I meant in comparison to the PrimaLuna's, and actually in comparison to all other tube amps I have heard. I have heard them over the exact same set of speakers, wire, etc. as the PrimaLuna's, and everyone present agreed that the Rogue's had a much brighter, harder sound. I am not saying this was a bad sound at all, by the way, just different, and not what I personally cared for. The PrimaLuna's certainly sound more life-like and throw a much bigger soundstage, IMO, if that is important to you, and I have never heard of anyone having a problem with them, whereas I know a few people who have had problems with their Rogue amps. Just sharing my own experiences, YMMV.
tpsonic
1,092 posts
 
IMS:I believe the 88s are more "full-range".Adjust warmth through the driver/input tubes.If the power is not an issue,the auto-bias works w/o a hitch.The "stock PL tubes" have a slightly forward sound.Rolling the 12au/ax tubes makes a significant improvement(>>$110/4-double for monos).
sogood51
2,157 posts
 
Learsfool

Well the higher power Rogue amps are a bad match for your speakers (which are fairly bright sounding on their own).

Just as the Primaluna would not be a good match for my Apogee speakers.

The amp must fill the need of the user.

Dave
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