Stl114..do yourself a favor and give the Papa 802d what it really deserves. Lots of power!! The best and one of the most powerful amps on the market under $10K is the Sander's Magtech amp and it will drive the 802d's with such aplomb and majestic splendor that you will never look back. The amp will easily drive down to 1/3 ohms. The amp has a very large 3.0 kVA transformer. It has 20 Motorola 15 amp thermal-trax transistor's. It has a patented linear voltage regulator that eliminates voltage switching and voltage fluxuation which is typical in most amps which is why they run hot. The amp has no clipping protection circuits and will never clip no matter how hard you push it due to the voltage regulator. And the amp runs cool to lukewarm at all levels. The amp took two years to design by Roger Sanders and is built by Coda in California. Coda is the former engineering team from Threshold. The amp is warm, natural, very smooth and dynamic and it puts out 900 watts into 4ohms and weighs only 55 lbs. It only costs $5K!! Roger allows you to try the amp for thirty days and will return your money in full and he pays for the shipping both ways. Comes with a lifetime warranty. One of the hidden treasures in high end audio.