What's in a NAIM?


Can anyone tell me how to stop my Pioneer Elite DVD player from causing a hum when connected to my NAIM NAIT 5i ???

I have circuit tested the entire house and run a dedicated line to the fuse box.

I could find no trace of either DC or AC voltage between the Neutral and Ground at the fuse box or the dedicated line

Anyone tackled this before?

Any help appreciated

Thanks
williewonka
I have also posted a related question here, but it is more a question regarding the design of various sources

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?htech&1277418935&openusid&zzWilliewonka&4&&

The sources that hum are the ones where an AC signal can be measured.

I have an old AKAI and a Luxman amp and there is no hum aparant on either of them with these units

I have gone as far as switching all the breakers off except the dedicated line to the amp - it still hums - so I do not think it is from an external source

Lost for things to try...

Seems that the NAIM is very sensitive
Try this...it solved a similar problem for me w/ a Denon universal.

A short run of solid copper wire (bell wire - Home Depot) from the center screw of the electrical wall plate to a CHASSIS screw on the Pioneer should solve your problem.

Good luck.
If the system has coax connected from the cable box or to the TV disconnect it. If it is the cause, you need a ground loop isolator.
I'm not going to rule out that the Naim might have a problem, but when video is a part of a system, it opens the door for all kinds of hum and noise. Naim is one of the most reliable and dependable brands I've ever worked with, especially their "two channel" models. It might be the Naim, but just make sure to isolate the video first.
I can confirm there is no problem with the NAIM equipment and this is HiFi only system so there is no connection to any video component - except for the DVD player that is being used only as a CD transport

I spoke with NAIM support and they confirm that their design philosophy is different from that of the consumer electronics manufacturers, which causes this problem to occur.

Grounding the neutral to the earth will fix the problem, but will it cause the source to perform differently?
- if not - why don't they ground the neutral via a three pin main plug?
- why doesn't "consumer electronics" use three pin plugs at all?
e.g. My Denon A/V Receiver only has two pins also

I have a feeling that common occurrences of bad domestic wiring led to the design decision not to ground consumer electronics, because most consumers do not posses the required knowledge or equipment to track down a bad connection/earth/neutral. Audiophiles tend to posses more knowledge in this area.

The solution offered by NAIM was to insert a stereo Ground Loop Isolation device between the DVD and the AMP.

They were not keen on employing any ad-hoc connections to either ground or neutral or between Chassis - i.e. connections not supported by way of the leads supplied with the equipment manufacturers.

These isolation devices are commonly used in disco and music amplification circles, mainly because the power supply at some venues can present problems of this nature.

Behringer has this type of product available, but it does not have phono plugs - so I might have to get creative

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/HD400.aspx

Having had Behringer gear for live music mixing I can confirm they are high audio quality components

Other solutions I have found are:
http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=55211
http://www.xitel.com/usa/prod_gli.htm
http://www.jkaudio.com/pureformer.htm