Creek Destiny or Rogue Cronus Magnum?

Pdrher, Vinyladdict,
I really appreciate your opinions. My focus IS on creating an all American system. I KNOW the Creek is not American, but I may consider it. As no one is offering any opinion of it, apparently it either stinks or it is a super sleeper no one wants to share.
I am also looking for the long term, and I think I'd like to go American made.

Alright a month late. But I may be of some help. Certainly it matters more what your speakers are than these two amps.

The Creek Destiny is a very very good little integrated for the money. Running Harbeth P3ESR with them it was a very very good match. It is simply a very transparent amp that is quite musical and could get the current behind the little Harbeths and make them sing, wonderfully might I add.

The Rogue is a Push-Pull tube amp and will sound as such. Warm - Forward - Punchy - Tube Sweetness. A horrible match for the Harbeth I am sure (Harbeth likes a more laidback amp) but an awesome match for my current Zu Omen Defs.
I am getting my Rogue in the mail tomorrow. Give me a few weeks and I will have a comparison for you.

My current thoughts are that in this case: if you have to ask you are off on the wrong foot my friend. Regroup - get some knowledge. This looks like a disaster waiting to happen.

Email me if you'd like.

Something to consider: The Cronus Magnum is a different animal than the garden variety Cronus, which is the one, I presume, that Vinyladdict was comparing. The Magnum uses an entirely different output tube with about 60% more output and wider bandwidth.

In addition, according to the review,

The “Magnum” tag ... reflects a set of upgrades designed to increase transparency, improve dynamics and frequency extension, and provide for a smoother overall presentation. In the Cronus integrated these tweaks include a larger and more sophisticated power supply, the addition of polypropylene bypass capacitors, as well as precision Dale-Vishay resistors “in critical spots,” gold-plated tube sockets, upgraded input signal tubes, the KT90s mentioned above, as well as superior binding posts for more solid speaker cable connections.

This could make a significant difference in how it fares against the Cayin.

Well, I finally pulled the trigger and bought the Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum. After one day with it I am very pleased.
Samlucas091 I would like very much to hear your impressions of the Rogue you're getting in the mail.
I enjoyed reading your impressions till you wrote "if you have to ask you are off on the wrong foot my friend. Regroup - get some knowledge. This looks like a disaster waiting to happen," which is overly dramatic and judgmental.
You claim that if I have to ask I'm off on the wrong foot. If this is the case, no one should ask anything to increase their knowledge using the Audiogon forum.
Thanks all for your excellent input.

Rhanechak what signal/driver tubes did yours come with?