Pass Labs XP10 or Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE


This thread is intended for those who have experience with both preamps, primarily. But feedback from those who have one or the other is welcomed.

I really like the idea of a no-gain preamp. I normally wouldn't consider something like the W4S for my set-up, except that what it lacks in appearance (external), it seems to actually possess(internal). I have a Pass Labs X250.5 which has 26/30 dB of gain on it's own. While I would love to have an aesthetically matching/pleasing system (all Pass), the sound still has to determine my purchase. The W4S could also potentially save me some coin in the process.

I am currently unable to hear either preamp so I am trying to get impressions from current owners of either, or both, product(s).
jbreezy5
Jbreezy5,

I own the Pass XP10. I haven't heard the STP.
I did have an X1 before the XP10. The XP10 is just another level better than the X1.
The X1 had 31 volume steps, and really didn't go low enough in volume with my Electrocompaniet CD player going into it, in balanced mode.
The XP10 has 64 volume steps, it can go very low in volume level, without losing deatail or bass information.
The XP10 has better detail, it's readily apparent.
I do live very close to high tension electrical lines, along a canal. My X1 would pick up noise through the umbilical cord to the power supply, on high electrical demand days here in Phoenix, if I tried to place the power supply on the floor. The XP10 is absolutely silent.
I did own the BAT VK31-SE. The X1 beat it in soundstage & bass slam. The BAT had better detail in single ended mode. The XP10 beats both in balanced or single ended mode.
The remote on the XP10 is also much better (easier & faster to use) than the X1 remote.
There was 1 feature on the X1 that the XP10 does not have -
remote control switching between hi/lo gain. I just leave the XP10 in high gain, to accommodate the single ended output on my Oppo BluRay player.
I also can't hear the STP anywhere in my area, I'd like to.
I own (7) monoblocs with the B&O module, I'm sold on them.
Mine are very similar to the Rowland 501s..
Dan, Why don't you use the low gain setting? just curious. I have an X1 and keep it on low gain at all times.
You should try both. I bet that the XP 10 will work better with your amp. That being said synergy between components can be a big thing.
Tzh21y,

If I use the low gain with my Oppo BDP-83, I'm listening to some movies with the volume level setting in the 50s.
I prefer to listen in the high 30s or low 40s.

Danielk141