Powering Totem Sttafs and Rainmakers


Hi all,

Just bought Totem Sttafs and Rainmakers (I like 4 stereo speakers in one room, I also like floor-standing speakers on stands so mid-range is ear-level). But my Integra stereo receiver under-compels Totems and anyway the 8 ohm Sttafs & 4ohm Rainmakers will kill the Integra in time. The Nad C375BEE would feed the power hungry Totems and drive down to 2-3 ohms but is it worthless without a Niles or similar switcher? I use an OPPO DVD as my CD player but soon will likely run all my audio / video from my laptop + Moon DAC. Are there tube pre’s and solid state amps that pair well with the Totems that I should consider? Or another integrated superior to the Nad for the Totems? What about cables? Thanks in advance. -Scott
scottmoshen
Hi Scott:

If you look back at your original post you ask some very specific questions about using amplifiers with already purchased speakers in a set-up that is not too common ... two sets of speakers in the same room off of the same amp amp with the floorstanders on stands, no less.

I have never heard the Staffs and the Rainmakers playing in the same room at the same time, so I don't know if you are going to run into voicing issues, no matter what amp you use. If you have gone CD shopping in J&R Music in NYC, the sound of the music playing changes every so many feet because they have different brands of speakers connected to the same amplifier.

I would find a local Totem dealer and see if he can re-create your set-up with the amplifiers on hand and decide for yourself. It may be easier to purchase an amp on-line, but your set-up is too specific and you are committed to the Totems in a big way.

Rich

Kbarkamian,
That is odd. Never heard anything bad about Totem + NAD combination. In fact one of the demos I had for Totem Rainmakers and Hawks were with NAD amps and that was a nice demo indeed.
Yes, Bryston and Simaudio would be step up. Arcam will be more "refined" but not "power", which I feel the Totems need.
Milpai,

Totems no doubt benefit from some power. But what they really need is stable power in my experience. They need an amp that won't struggle with low impedance and difficult phase angles. If I recall correctly, Totem was saying NAD wasn't fast enough in it's power delivery. Perhaps it's damping factor or slew rate? I'm not a specs guy at all. No idea what those truly mean, even though I've read a definition.

The Bryston B60 has a good bit less wattage than an NAD 372. On a pair of Sttafs, the B60 smoked the NAD in an average sized room during a demo. Same with the Arros. If you're looking for SPL above all else, I'd imagine an NAD 372 would fare a bit better than a B60. However, the B60 powered the Totems to levels a good bit above normal in an average sized room without breaking a sweat.

Regardless of all that stuff, I can't really figure out why someone would use 4 speakers for stereo music in a room other than a huge open room. Makes no sense to me. Can't see how imaging, sound staging, etc. wouldn't be thrown off. 2 speakers that were designed for the amount of space that are properly placed should sound better than 4 speakers in a 2 channel system IMO.
I listened to Sttafs through an awesome Vincent Audio and a terrific NAD 375 BEE last week. But I wonder whether I can put together a kick-*ss mostly Totem 5.1 system by picking up an Arcam 375 AVR here, with my current Sttafs as fronts, my current Rainmakers as rears / surrounds, picking up a Dreamcatcher Center also on sale here, plus a sub. Would this work? What sub selling here would you pair?
Using Totem Sttafs with an Emotiva UPA-200 125 wpc into 8 ohms 200 wpc into 4 ohms.  Response is very quick. Love the sound.