Is my Pass amp overheating?


The amp is an XA30.5.

Yesterday I was doing some tinkering and the amp was turned off for a couple hours (unusual for me). When I was done, I sat down to listen while the amp was still cold. To my surprise, it sounded BETTER than I'd ever heard it.

The amp is Class A, so according to conventional wisdom, it needs to warm up before sounding its best. Yet it definitely sounded better BEFORE it warmed up. So I'm wondering if the amp is overheating. To test this, I took the lid off the amp. Three things happened:

1. At idle, the bias needle moved from 11 o'clock to 1 o'clock (unprecedented).

2. The cooling fins became much HOTTER (not cooler, as I would have expected).

3. The sound quality of the amp remained "improved" even after several hours.

Can someone please explain what's going on?

Thanks,
Bryon

P.S. The amp is in a closet. But I don't think that's the problem, for the following reasons: The amp is on the top shelf of an equipment rack, so there is two feet of open air above it. There is a large fan in the ceiling of the closet that sucks air and sends it through a duct to the outside of the house. So the closet stays very close to the temperature of the rest of the house. Also, I can reproduce all the effects described above with the closet door open.
bryoncunningham
Just realized that I never reported back the listening results after installing the aluminum and copper mesh lid that I installed on my Pass amp.

As I mentioned in my last post, the mesh lid DECREASED the amount of heat inside the chassis relative to the stock lid but INCREASED the amount of heat relative to no lid. As a result the bias of the amp is highest with no lid, lowest with the stock lid, and half way between the two with the mesh lid.

The listening results are these... IMO, the amp sounds best with no lid, i.e. at the highest bias setting. At that setting, the instrument timbres are the most realistic and the overall presentation is the most musical. Next best is the mesh lid, i.e. at the middle bias setting. Then the stock lid, i.e. at the lowest bias setting.

Although no lid sounds slightly better than the mesh lid, it makes me a little nervous leaving the lid off permanently, even though the amp is in an equipment closet.

On a slightly different subject, it's worth pointing out that the amp must be fairly impervious to RFI, since the addition of the copper mesh, which reduces RFI significantly, was less beneficial to sound quality than the difference between the no-lid bias setting and the mesh-lid bias setting. I suppose that's because of Pass's "Super Symmetry" design? Or maybe that's just marketing? I don't know.

In any case, I'm still pondering whether to go with the custom lid or sans lid. I wish there were a way to turn up the bias manually.

Bryon
Hi Csontos - I just read your thread on DC offset and bias. Very interesting.
You just hit the nail on the head Bryon.
Are you saying that there's a way to manually adjust the bias on my XA30.5? According to Pass, the autobias on the amp is regulated by internal chassis temperature, which is consistent with my findings comparing the stock lid, the mesh lid, and no lid. In light of the amp's autobias, is it unlikely that the amp also has adjustment pots to manually set bias?

Bryon
I'm not familiar with your particular amp. What I don't understand is why manufacturers don't incorporate user adjustable bias controls in ss amps the way they do with tubes. It's especially relevant in your case where the tolerance in the auto-bias prevents the amp from ever achieving pin-point accuracy. You've just verified where the ultimate potential of your amp lives, as with any ss amp. At least with a fixed bias you can fiddle with it till you find it, not so with yours. If you could, this thing would knock your socks off!
As an after thought, I wonder what Nelson would have to say about this whole thing. You should ask him your self. He has his own dedicated site on DIY.com. It would be a very enlightening experience to say the least. I'd love to be a fly on the wall observing how he tweaks his personal gear.