Mastersound Compact 845 with Pvsane 845T


I own a Mastersound Compact 845 and Mastersound PH5 Pre Amp and orderd two Pvsane 845 T Valves.I was advised by the valve supplier that they would work ok as they were the top of 845 range of valves.I was then advised by my dealer that a mod had to be done to the Cathode Resistor on the Compact 845 to take account of the voltage increase.Otherwise the uit could in the future fail.Any body out there using the 845 T in the compact without modification to the resistor should be aware of this .Any comments welcome
patal
Patal,

Unless something has been done to your amp to make it incompatible with RCA-spec 845 tubes -- and if it's running 845A, nothing has -- you can replace 845A with 845-T or 845B. It may be that if subsequently you had the bias checked, testing might suggest that a precise adjustment to the value of the associated resistors can dial in the amp more perfectly. Maybe. But you're not going to harm anything by that simple change of tubes.

Whether you will think the 845-T is better sounding than the 845B, or not, is your call. I did not find the 845-T to have clear advantage to warrant using it, and in my own experience with the tube and observation by others who have reported results to me, I have to conclude the 845-T is less reliable than the 845B. Others may have a different experience. Other than the B tube, my suggestions for not-too-exotic alternatives are the Sophia 845MkIII, and the cryo'd 845A sold by ATSI. Interesting exotic alternatives include the KR -- likely requiring some changes to the filament supply -- and the super-scarce Elrod; expensive! Or for that matter, go hunting for a pair of NOS RCA or Amperex. Also dear.

The major area for upgrade that I suggest you have your tech investigate is recapping the power supply. The power supply caps have a strong influence on the voicing of vivid tube amp like this, and on its dynamic character. The Mastersound SET amps sound a little "slow" compared to my Audion equivalents, to me, and I think this can be easily corrected by judicious selection of capacitors to recap the power supply, and you can pick up more transparency in the bargain. Certainly while a tech has the amp for repair it is easy enough for him to precisely bias the amp for the tubes you choose, too.

Phil
I agree with everything that Phil wrote especially about new caps. I recapped my 845 amp with both teflon V-Caps which once broken in, offer the amp more speed and transparency. I also tried Mundorf M-CAP Supreme Silver / Gold & Oil caps which offer a very organic rich sound without sacrificing transparency. Two different excellent sounding caps, but in the end I kept the Mundorfs.
Hi Patal, let us know how you get on because I too have a Compact 845 from Jordan, so will be very interest in the outcome

Jonathan.
Hi Jonathan,
Will do .The amp is curremtly back in Scotland with Jordan for repair and I have asked the dealer to ask his tech over there for his opinion in regard to modifying the resister.This was asked prior to recieving the excelent e mail from Phil.Mastersound are still of the opinion that the modification is required.However they cant offer much more advice as they insist on seeing the 845T valve to test/check it.
The general feedback seems to favour the 845B.
Regardless will gladly let you know the outcome.
Regards
Alan (Patal)