Bass leaves after amp warms up?

Fishing, Al (Almarg) and Ralph (Atmasphere). I just read above that there is speculation about the ability of the variosu amps used to drive low impedance speakers. Dunno for sure.

But if that is the culpret, then I see 3 options: (1) change the speakers; (2) change the amp; or (3) Zero Autofomers. Not sure what the least expensive route to take is.

As regards option #3, check the web site. I think the guy who came up with the idea will take the Zeros back if they don't work. I think #3 is about $1,000. Bummer.

As I stated earlier, I am a Synchrony owner and have been in agreement with Al and Mapman from the start, due to the below 4 ohm impedance of the spkr in combination with integrated amps which do not list specs for 4 ohms.
BUT, Fishing716, I agree with using a SPL meter for the bass. Take a reading when amp is cold, then after an hour take another reading when amp is warmed-up. We'd all like to know the result.
After the test, I would move speakers 3' away from wall and 8 feet apart, toe-in and tell us what you hear. That is how my setup is and was recommended by my dealer.

The naked autoformers are a lot less than $1K, IIRC. I'm going to discourage buying an amp w the intention of using it as a test vehicle and then returning it. It's not ethical and contributes to the difficulty in getting items for legitimate home demo. Can't fault your dealer- when you buy on-line there is not much that they can do for you. I think that buying and using an SPL meter is the best way to get an objective handle on the extent of the problem and point toward possible solutions. It certainly should help your credibility w dealer and manufacturer.

Yes, SPL meter readings would help confirm that there is something truly going on physically with the setup as described. I do not doubt you hear what you hear, but it would be nice to be able to prove that what you hear is actually occurring and can be measured. Its much harder to get an obsective measure of what one hears as opposed to what the speakers are delivering.

Fish, if it were me, with those speakers i would not use any integrated if I had the option in any case. I think you would find the right dedicated power amp to be a clear improvement all the time. That's why I suggest the option of buying/trying one. My assumption is that you would keep it if it resolves your problem and sounds better. If not, then have the option to return it. That's a good and fair practice anytime one buys a product in good faith. If it does not work out, then you always should have the option to return within a reasonable time period. Nothing wrong or unethical about customer satisfaction.

Now what to do with teh current amp in that case? that would depend on if it is working as designed, which it may be, or defective in some way. Testing it with an easier pair of speakers to drive would be needed to determine. If it can't drive an easy speaker load, then it may be defective, as opposed to just not up to the task of driving the PSBs specifically to their full potential.