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Avalon Idea vs Ascendant II

My target speaker is either Avalon Idea or Ascendant II, I’ve a small listening area and I think these speakers are suitable for me. My question is how you compare the sound quality of Idea and Ascendant II?
Or both speakers sound very same? Unfortunately my local dealer don’t have both speakers together at this moment, but I have test Idea, very impressive and I love very much. And the dealer told me although both speakers are using same type of drive, almost same design, but Idea’s Crossover are new deign by Avalon, it has better sound than Ascendant II (more transparency). And Ascendant II is almost 15 news old, Idea should be a better choice.

BTW, Idea is about USD2060 cheaper than Ascendant II in my region.

Current system
CDP: Esoteric X-03-SE
Pre-amp: Electrocompaniet EC-4.8 Pre-amp
Power-amp: AW-180 Mono-block
Speaker: Italian Diapason Karis bookshelf speaker
CSE Isolation Transformer TX-1200 (Max. 1300W)
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mm622 OP
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Thank you very much of your opinion! I only listen to Jazz music, mainly contemporary Jazz and some Brazilian Jazz (Bossa Nova), like this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Viva-V-E-R-D-I/dp/B00BQNG8U6/ref=sr_1_8?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1368297732&sr=1-8&keywords=giovanni+mirabassi

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sobremesa/dp/B006YOUU74/ref=sr_1_1?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1368298062&sr=1-1&keywords=Anna+Maria+Jopek

I hope Idea is the right choice
mm622 OP
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I mean ths kind of music:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sobremesa/dp/B006YOUU74/ref=sr_1_1?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1368298062&sr=1-1&keywords=Anna+Maria+Jopek

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Viva-V-E-R-D-I/dp/B00BQNG8U6/ref=sr_1_8?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1368297732&sr=1-8&keywords=giovanni+mirabassi
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wig
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The Ascendants will get you Avalons' legendary trademark sound unless you're willing to move up to the Indras, especially with jazz and classical...
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wig
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According to the specs, the driver are almost identical but the Idea will obviously have a different crossover. The Ascendants are more efficient, beffier cabinet and reach farther 28hz-25Khz verses Idea 28hz-22Khz.
mm622 OP
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Anybody knows what is the retail market price of Idea now in U.S. (Include tax, after discount, net price)? Just want to compare the price with my local dealer price.
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