Thump noise on the lead in on warped LPs

Turntables are tricky things to get set up optimally.

Warped records are always a problem, but more so with some setups than others.

Others might correct me, but if you hear the thump noise frequently regularly even with just modestly warping in the records, I'd suspect initially its most likely some combination of the tonearm having trouble tracking the record through the warp combined with a table system resonance occurring in the frequency range where the thump noise occurs.

All tables have resonant frequencies, but they can be tweaked in various ways using different combinations of tonearms of various mass and associated carts. There is info in agon forums and other sources on how to address these things.

Also, in general, higher mass tonearm/cart combos tend to have more difficulty in general trqacking through warped records due to the higher mass and associated inertia.

Its hard to recommend a specific solution to this problem, but at least these are the things I would say are worth researching and giving some consideration to to help remedy the problem.

As Stringreen says, the arm needs lifting at the pillar as either the rear of the cartridge is riding on the warp or the warp is catching your tonearm (you don't mention what tonearm you're using). A tapered tonearm like the SME IV/V series can be hit by a warp if the warp is bad enough or the tonearm is too low.

Hello Davey...
I agree the likeliest explanation is the cart could be "bottoming" on the warp.
Also agree tapered SMEs and warps do not mix well.

If you are using a technodec then chances are you are using a Technoarm(?) I'm not sure these come with ready VTA adjustment. (Perhaps owners will advise?)

If this be the case you have options :

1. Shim the arm at the base.
2. An easier, less stressful fix is if the Technodec uses a 5mm mat you could try a thinner one e.g. Ringmat with Latex underlay (4mm), bare Ringmat (3mm) or the 3mm Achromat?

Kind regards...

PS : You may have to increase the VTF after any of these moves.

Dear Friends
Thanks for all the feed back
When I mention that I have moved house, I can have the volume up a bit, thats when I noticed the "thump", om slightey warp LPs, as it has been very hot and humid down here, I have reset VTA etc!!
I was thinking, maybe the cartridge(Garrot Bros new P770 approx 200 hours), before many years ago I was running a Well
Tempered labs clasic,at high volumes, but becaused a long time ago I fogot the MC carridge?
I/m not sure do you all think. may be a promblem with the cartridge(suspension)?
Regards
David

Dear Friends
Thanks for all the feed back
When I mention that I have moved house, I can have the volume up a bit, thats when I noticed the "thump", om slightey warp LPs, as it has been very hot and humid down here, I have reset VTA etc!!
I was thinking, maybe the cartridge(Garrot Bros new P770 approx 200 hours), before many years ago I was running a Well
Tempered labs clasic,at high volumes, but becaused a long time ago I fogot the MC carridge?
I/m not sure do you all think. may be a promblem with the cartridge(suspension)?
Regards
David
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