Shunyata for Arc REF5 SE


I understand audio research and shunyata cabling are a good match. I have a Ref5SE coming my way shortly and was wondering whether to get a z-tron cobra or a pick up as used phyton cx. I'd like to keep it in the sub $1K pricerange, so anything up the foodchain is out of the question. Anyone tried these two cables on an audio research preamp?
edorr

I suppose I should add that I'm using the Anaconda Zitron on my Classe Delta 2200 amp to the wall and on my Triton conditionerto the wall. I opted to spend my money there and live with lesser cords on everything else. The Python Zitron would be my second choice in those spots. I really have no idea how Shunyata Zitron cords mate with the P5 but they love my PWD MKII. ;-)
My concern is that Cobra Z-Tron might yield stage and images of slightly reduced size compared to Python CX.

Hi Guido, I don't recall experiencing a smaller overall context or reduced image scale with the Zi-Tron Cobra, though its been almost a year since I tried that cable. I suspect "wire gauge inadequacy" relative to a hungry 5SE power supply would manifest itself first as dynamic compression, but there's no sure rule to that. Soundstage size might be more a function of phase information (which tends to be timing-signal related and blurred by noise) versus current throughput. But that's just a theory. I do agree - if the caps aren't getting filled, then all bets are off. Between the two, the wire gauges are similar with the Python CX coming in slightly larger at 9 AWG and the Zi-Tron Cobra at 10.

Unless there really is an issue of impaired dynamics or immediacy that can be solved by a larger gauge wire such as a King Cobra CX, then I'm biased on the side of lower distortion, and opt for the Zi-Tron cords. Maybe I'm just lucky but I've not run into such a situation with front-end components or sources.

Edorr, the simple answer of course is exactly where you landed: avoid the issue entirely with the Zi-Tron Python.
Thanks guys. Good input. I'll probably start by picking up one or more Zitron Pythons and try them in a few places. I was never really impressed with the Synergistic Resarch Hologram D on my DAC, so I may try a Shunyata cord there as well.
I agree with the consensus that the Cobra Z's might be too neutral and or lean with the wrong combination. That being said I replaced a pair of the mega sized Hydra Hc VTX cords on my amps with a pair of Cobra Zs without a loss in dynamics, bass, soundstage scale, etc... There has been a long kinda roller coaster ride with break in ei. first things sounding just right then leanish now finally just right again. I have no dobt the Python Z's would be even better but you may just get away with the $1k less expensive Cobras. Just my 2 cents. YMMV.
At the moment Edorr,Im using cheap interconnects and powercords,cause I blew the budget on the pre.And love the the SE now,so you're in for a treat,this pre is awesome.Im using tara labs master ic,and air power cord,at this stage,so there's lots of even better music to come,when I can afford it.Im running it through a $1500 Plinius SA 100 mk 2 and its not dissapointing.cheers