Some irrefutable truths about rock and roll

I don't want to put words into his mouth, but my take from following Schubert's posts over the years is that he simply doesn't have room in his life for for vulgar art. That's not limited to rock music, by the way, IIRC he's no fan of Stravinsky, either. Schubert seems to prefer noble art both aesthetically and for its value statement to society (and possibly the behavioral effects it may inspire, as well).

Rock music (well, most good rock music, anyway) is IMHO vulgar by design. Most of the rock musicians that I admire would likely embrace that description. I find value in art that explores (okay, maybe celebrates) the vulgar (animal) side of human nature, while Schubert seems to reject it.

If I've gotten it right, I'd say that I don't agree with his viewpoint, but I understand it completely.

Marty, I agree with your post 100%.

Vulgar is vulgar. Noble is noble. Its only art. One can take it or not and do with it what they please.

One side note: there is such a thing as noble rock music. I'll cite The Moody Blues example from above again as an example. A lot of Yes as well. Progressive rock is probably the category of rock that one is most likely to find noble works. Symphonic rock, the subarea of prog rock that demonstrates the greatest influence from classical music, perhaps the most along the lines of pure classical music.

The album "Fear Of a Blamk Planet" is an interesting case study for the potential merits of rock music. This is a very dark though not vulgar theme album with the noble goal of bringing out some of the issues that face youths these days. The music is fabulous, the theme and lyrical content haunting. I view the artist's intent with this work as one of the most noble I can think of in recent rock music.

Actually Schubert, my moniker is Shubertmaniac [ unfortunately when I signed in I misspelled; should have had the "c" and you forgot the "c" at the end, which makes a world of difference] Actually, I wish I was 18 years old again. I did get my car....1968 Dodge Charger R/T [ rip roaring good time with it, and the back seat was put to good use as well!] But when I could no longer feel my youthful suburban middle class pain of alienation, I lost interest in rock music. Not totally, but the passion was gone. I trudged off to college and found classical music. Now I never look back to rock music as an aesthetic experience, but a trip down memory lane as fun and loads of good times. It is nothing more.....but then again nothing less.......and rock as good and/or evil???? As Mick put so succinctly....."it's only rock and roll". Ah yes...one more thought....how many of you danced to rock? And how many times did a cover band play "brown sugar" a night in 1971 at the Stone Balloon in Newark, DE or Tony Mart's in Somers Point, NJ; at least once a set....had to get the people moving.....what's the point.....by 1975-76, if your band was not playing funk or party music...you were not going to get a gig.