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Overshadowed by bandmates

I was listening to "Real Time" a live CD by Richard LLoyd, the "other" guitarist to Tom Verlaine in Television. It occurred to me that, while I like Verlaine's style, I ultimately prefer Lloyd's playing. I just didn't really appreciate it till he left the band and crawled out from Verlaine's shadow. This got me thinking. Until he left to start World Party, Karl Wallinger was obscured by Mike Scott while they were bandmates in The Waterboys. Now, I'll take Wallinger over Scott.

Some would say George Harrison suffered this fate, too. I think he was overshadowed by Lennon/Macca for many fans until "All Things Must Pass" and "Bangladesh". Any others come to mind?
martykl
audiofeil
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>>but there is no guarantee that a Watt-less Rolling Stones would have achieved greatness.<<

No guarantee, I agree.

Nonetheless, a very safe bet.

I don't recall many songs, music and/or lyrics, attributed to Charlie Watts.

Do you?
cyclonicman
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Sometimes the dominant bandmates are the catalyst that inspires the overshadowed one to grow. Maybe that's one reason that band's split up. One I didn't see mentioned was Dave Grohl. As far as song writing, he was definitely overshadowed by Kurt Cobain. After Cobain died and Nirvana was history, he came into his own with the Foo Fighters. He started writing really good songs and playing guitar as well as the drums.
jswarncke
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Ringo is not a technical drummer, but he has an impeccable sense of serving the song. The beatles might have been very different without his sense of style. Therefore, afeil, not only is you statement not undisputable, it is actually disputed.
cyclonicman
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I know I mentioned this in another post and here I go again. When the Beatles stole Ringo from Rory Storme and the Hurricanes, he was regarded as the best drummer in England. It was only after some very talented virtuoso drummers appeared, probably around 1967, that people thought it cool to bash Ringo or Charlie. They were the right drummers foe their bands.
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gawdbless
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"Ringo's steady and reliable drumming became essential in their studio sessions, as well as in their numerous and exhausting live performances across the world. Ringo's positive disposition as well as his drumming style played the pivotal role in shaping the famous image and music style of The Beatles as they are now known to the world,"

A quote I picked up.
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