Setup & Calibrations Part 1 Speaker placement


I was surprised not to see any treads on this subject since it is the single most important aspect of any hi-ed audio system. I would like to start by pointing out the importance of speaker placement, which is both a science and a art form. Oh sure we can talk about room dimensions, Acoustics, room treatment its endless. I would like to give you some of my advice on this subject for what its worth. I have been Selling, and designing systems for over thirty years and have what I think mastered the Art of speaker placement. It does take time and patience, (at minumum hours,sometimes days)but I truly believe its the single most important part of a fine system. Do not try placing speakers with room acoustical treatment in the room! Just leave what furniture you have to use in the room and thats all. Your objective is to get the bass & soundstage perspective correct at the listeners position. When that is done then you can one by one add your acoustical treatment to help define the soundstage and tonal balance the way you want it. My self I prefer setting up my speakers on the LONG Wall, Yes you heard that correct lol. One I find that Bass is more tunefull in most cases and there is no doubt that it throws a wider more holographic sound stage. I truly think its better in everyway. Granted if you have a very narrow room than that may not be practical. Try it both ways though. I usually start with the 1/3 rule for starters. I have to say its pretty consistant and gets you in the ball park. So 1/3 out from front wall. If you cant do thirds try 5ths, etc. The closer to the back wall will give you more bass of course but you want the bass to be very linear and tunefull. Play some stand up bass, piano, and you want to hear all notes evenly, its wrong if evey note sounds like one note !Distance from the side walls will add more upper bass or lower midrange so you will have to play with both the back wall and side wall distances to get just the right balance. I use tape on the floor to give me points of reference I can always go back to if I get lost. I usually start with my speakers about 8 feet apart and move them farther or closer depending on the sitting distance and the side walls. I listen for three thing. (1) Were I hear all bass notes clearly and tunefully (2)Good mono content, voices and instruments have good presence but open sounding. There is a fine line where if you get the speakers to far apart voices and instruments will sound larger than life. (3) You are trying to find the best position for Bass, & Soundstage. when you've achieved that you'll also notice that the room will have the least effect on the sound. Then at that point you can add your acoustical treatment to fine tune the end result. I myself try to use the least amount of acoustical treatment as possible. I am always surprised how people have this idea that you want to make the room dead. lol Im sorry but reflections are good, the key is to delay them. Defusion is a much better choice with as little absorbtion as possible. Problem with absorbtion materials is they are not linear at all frequency's. So you have to be real careful what materials you try. I will try to post a article on the coefficientcy's of different materials to show you that its critical to choose material carefully. I use as little absorbtion as possible to keep the sound live, dynamic and open sounding. Defusion is the better answer ! I will post more on this subject and talk about speaker toe in, bass issues, and treatment in my next post. Look forward to your posts & feel free to ask any questions Kevin
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I agree with many of your points. I will never understand why so many people don't take the time to move their speakers around a bit. I have moved mine 1000 times, usually a 1/4 inch at a time. I even move mine when I change amplifiers or even sources, to get back to what I feel is the correct sound.

Which brings me to a point I would like to add. In my experience, speaker placement is not independant of speaker type, or even associated electronics. In other words, not all speakers like the same positions even if their drivers are similar and that changing gear can alter the soundstaging and imaging to the extent that more moving is required.

Also, I start with the golden ratio: 1.618. This would be more like a 2/3 rule rather than a 1/3 rule and I find it works GREAT. But again, it depends on the speaker.

Something that I often find overlooked, and that can make a dramatic improvement, is toe-in. Many people I meet will have the speakers pointing straight out just because they THINK that is how it should LOOK but so far, I have found that (especially in smaller rooms), toe-in is a requirement for correctly sized imaging and appropriate definition. Anyone familiar with manual focus on a camera can appreciate the fact there is infinite difference between being slightly out-of-focus and in-focus. Toe-in allows this critical adjustment to be made. Afterall, we are dealing with sound wave focusing....

I totally agree with your room treatment philosophy. I have had the opportunity to hear speakers in an anechoic chamber and the sound was terrible!! No life at all and the sound was anything but "live." Since then, I make sure not to fall in that trap and I use strategically placed furniture along the side walls to break-up the reflections. Works great for me, as much for looks as for sound.

Arthur
I have been working at this for years. I have used about every Vandersteen speaker available at one point and have found without proper placement, you do get what has been describe as "The Vandersteen sound." And I can say with proper placement that they become much more open, holographic and DO NOT sound rolled off(or have that described sound.)This goes for non-time aligned speakers. They can go from harsh to soft in a very short distance. I think this is why you end up with so many good components for sell. They are blamed for room ills.
A friend of mine told me an easy way to move speakers around that I really hadn't thought of. Use the small little furniture moving slides. These things work great. I leave the spikes on the speaker and set the spike into the slide. You can now easily move them any place and any amount you want.
I have discovered that Vandersteen's sound good about anywhere BUT they will perform at a much higher level when placed correctly. I've thought I've had good sound in the past only to find it really wasn't.
I am amazed how positioning effects soundstaging going from sound between the speakers to sound way out past the boundaries. Usually when the speaker is close, it no longer sounds like music is coming from a speaker. It just exists in space. (Of course with Vandy's, tilt back is really important.)
I have found all speakers benefit from this effort and I'm amazed people don't really discuss this much. The difference is not slight, it's huge in a lot of cases.
I agree with Aball, toe can be very beneficial. I have also found slight chair adjustments work to fine tune.
I generally used odd number placements like division by 3, 5 or 7. Then make small 360 degree moves from that point. It seems to work well in my room.
I hope we get more ideas from this thread. It's a good one.
This should be discussed more - small changes in placement can make a surprisingly large difference in sound. I have a problem which you all may be able to help me solve in this regard. I have experimented with many different placements for my speakers, using the test tones on the Editor's Choice CD from Stereophile. Somehow, although the speakers sound quite accurate/even with these test tones, there is a resonance of some sort that I hear on acoustic jazz bass. It appears to be towards the middle of the bass range, not right at the bottom. Any ideas? Why wouldn't this show up on the test tones? Is it possibly merely a resonance of the instrument (ie. not the speakers' fault)?

Thanks in advance for your help.