Help please choosing AMP wattage for a newbe

The same argument can be used in reverse: how do you tell in advance how a component(s) will react with speakers that haven't been tried with it/them?
The way I hear it, speakers seem vastly more colored than most other components, and perhaps even more importantly speakers react more differently in different rooms or with different placement, with less user control, more so than most other components.
The old cliche' of "gabage in, garbage out" doesn't hold water with me. It doesn't matter at what stage the signal is contaminated, it's still contamintated. Just as a speaker can't make a poor input signal better, a "better" sources benefit can be negated going through poor speakers. The weakest link will cause problems regardless where it is. IMHO, it's just more likely that deviations from accuracy are more likely to occur at the speaker end, and especially in the speaker/room interface. If we accept that speakers and the speaker/room interface is more colored than other components, it makes sense (at least to me) to; 1. list the least colored speakers in ones budget, that will fit, and can be appropriately placed in the given room planned for use, and 2. of those, choose the ones whose "palatte" of colorizations is least objectionable/most acceptable to you, then 3. work back from there.

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" The same argument can be used in reverse: how do you tell in advance how a component(s) will react with speakers that haven't been tried with it/them? "

Perhaps.

it could as well be a lot simpler deal if the person bought into the aspect of built in synergy via one brand of power train, pre and amp too, and then find out what speakers that brand voiced them with. At that point though, you have the power components and speakers which yield you the designers ear, not your own.

I tried that plan early on too. Not a bad way to go.

I believe matching components together is a far simpler task. Their generation of the signal, enhancement, transmission of it, and their apparent flexibility or options, do not encounter some or even most of those problems associated with loudspeakers. Consequently, it is an easier task to amass a very good front end with which to begin the hunt for fine speakers... or merely those which work best for the end user.

Going down that road a mite more, it's easier to find devices which have significantly improve upon signal integrity.

Of all the transducers I've had or own now, each time an upgrade to the power train or source, or cabling was accomplished the sound quality escalated or improved or at least changed. Usually though, for the better.

I suspect the author here is on that same bent. I’d also bet the resultant quality and control of the loudspeakers on hand there increases if the higher power producing gear is in place. Spazz said too a speaker upgrade is in the plans to follow… and likely up to other ML units, or some such which require the sort of power being thought of now for the author’s preffs.

In all it is very probably “6 one way, half a dozen” the other which ever direction is taken.

As subjectively speculative as is the end result in either scheme, I guess I’m more fond of seeing increases through the speakers on hand along the way till they top out via upstream changes, then at that point, seek out suitable replacements as I’m figuring with my luck having a swinging door for speakers, the ‘best’ might be gotten rid of or overlooked due to inferior or just less synergistic electronics as the ongoing speakerage debuts continue as the front end is then not entirely formulated.

BTW

Spazz

Which speakers are on your short list for the planned upgrade you mentioned?

Unless I am simplifying things, this questiuon bugs me out. I always felt a powerful amp is like a powerful sports car. Maybe the car can do 200 mph, but you don't have to go that fast. I think if you control your volume levels, you should be okay. You will probably go deaf before you fry a 200W speaker