power conditioning vs. power regeneration?


Hi Goners:
Would someone be kind enough to explain the differences between the two and where one would be superior to the other?
Would power regeneration replace the need for dedicated lines?

Thanks,
128x128azjake
A power regenerator is an electronic component which contains internally a 60Hz oscillator driving a high capacity power amplifier. Its 60Hz output is what powers the audio system, and the ac from the wall is only used to power the regenerator itself. So in principle the audio system will see ac power that is very pure, and essentially free of noise, harmonics, etc.

A power conditioner is essentially a filter, which passes the 60Hz ac from the wall to the audio system, while attenuating to some degree the noise and other spectral impurities that may be present. Some of them also provide outlets that are isolated from each other to some degree, so that noise from digital components can be prevented from coupling into analog components via their power connections.

Individual experiences vary with all of these products. As Larry suggested, see if you can evaluate some of them in your particular system on a trial basis, and go with what works best.

Regards,
-- Al
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Hi Bob,

I think that what might be misleading you is the phrase "modulate the output from the power supply," which I too have seen said in various contexts.

In a typical design, the internal power supply of an audio power amp is essentially not in the signal path. The power supply converts the incoming ac into dc voltages, which in a good design are then heavily filtered, and then those dc voltages in turn power the amplifier circuits.

The same goes for a power regenerator. Its internal power supply converts the ac to various dc voltages, which are filtered and then used to power its 60Hz power amplifier.

The internal power supplies in both cases, therefore, provide isolation between the power amplifier circuits and noise or other garbage which may be present on the incoming ac. If the amplifier's power supply did its job to 100% perfection, totally isolating noise on the ac line from the audio signal path, there would be no benefit to connecting it to either a conditioner or a regenerator. But nothing is perfect, and in some systems with some ac power sources the conditioner or regenerator can supplement the rejection provided by the supply in the audio component.

Hope that is helpful.

Regards,
-- Al
Thank you gentlemen for such a clear set of answers!
Indeed trial is the ultimate decider but i was curious if one was more suited to doing a better 'all around' job, such as surge protection, fluctuation etc.
To me it seems that the regenerator introduces a 'pure' sinewave which is unfettered from possible filtering excesses which may only help in some areas while causing harm in others!

Best,

Jake
Yes, in principle a power regenerator should do the best job. However, a good one, with sufficient output capability to power an amplifier and other components that may draw considerable current, will cost considerable $, and also be substantial in size and weight. The leading example that I know of is the PS Audio Power Plant Premier, which costs $2200.

And even for that unit you can find comments here from some people who found it to do more harm than good. I have no idea why that may have been so, assuming the current draw of their system on high volume peaks does not approach the regenerator's maximum capability, but like a lot of things in audio there are effects that are inexplicable.

Regards,
-- Al