Who makes blue-ray w/universal player ?

just saw the 'road test' of a Denon Universal.....don't remember model #.
It was also 4500$, which is 9x the OPPO of 95% the performance.
Given how temporary formats are these days and the rapid pace of so-called improvements, the OPPO is the no-brainer choice.

The Oppo is only a a "no brainer" if analog sound is not your concern. If it is and you have the budget, then the Oppo is probably way down the list, even in SE guise. The Ayre will likely be the highest performing but the Denon is getting good reviews as well at half the price of the Ayre. You could also consider the NuForce Oppo player or getting the Oppo and having it modded by one of the known modders (e.g., Modwright, etc.)

Sony PS3

John C.

Bar,
Would you believe......? The OPPO with a good DAC?
I have experimented with my DV981 optical into my CA840c's input......
An improvement to be sure.

I am not up to speed on the mod guys. I wonder how, within weeks of issue of a new player, that they can come out with several levels of 'package'.

I wonder how many of the changes are boiler plate and how many were the result of listening tests.

oppo 83SE is the only way to go, as others have commented. Great value. Means you can sell off all the other players you have, and maybe have a profit. Hurry!