Influence of DC offset on bias

and finally the 105's but only because they begin rolling off right at 20hz.

Are you realy fenomenal or you've just measured SPL to make such conclusion?

I still don't get which amp you've been trying to adjust bias? I've looked at the schematics of Superamp and it has a quiescent current stabilization(an auto-bias), but the offset is being set by Q23 in diode connection and R27 I assume at the factory only once and than sealed.

I don't know, maybe but the 105's keep you on the edge of your seat waiting for it to happen and it never does, no sub-audible bottom end at all. I adjust bias on all my amps. I have no auto bias amps. Some don't have adjustable offset. The LSR&D Superamp monos I have definitely have bias pots. There are no other ones in the circuit. The Leach Low TIM DIY circuit has had numerous upgrades over the years so you may have found an up to date version but the factory amps were few in number produced back in the late 70's-early 80's. Unfortunately and sad to say, Dr. Leach passed away this past November. Always returned his e-mails and was available to deal personally with any question you may have.

Hi Csontos . . are you experiencing differences in timbre or level between channels on some of your amps? If so, given the age of the GAS stuff, the first thing I would be looking for is dried-out electrolytics used for coupling caps, especially at the input and in the feedback ladder.

Kirkus, I'm not experiencing a problem, just searching for an explanation on why after setting bias identically, I have to then pinpoint the adjustment while listening to program material. I believe Marakanetz answered my question. All of my amps are gone over and have been recapped and upgraded throughout. However resisters are usually left alone unless they're blown so I'm assuming it stands to reason the adjustment is much more critical; or is it? You tell me. I thought a stilted offset might require a stilted bias but apparently that's not the case. The bottom line is, and whatever the reason, on every one of my amps, perfect channel balance results in a stilted condition. Very close, but stilted. The channel with more offset always has a higher bias also.

Well, bias of course affects distortion performance, and I have seen many, many amplifiers where the final quescient bias level when warmed up varies with how much load there is on the amplifier when its warming up, and ends up being very different from the value and conditions specified by the manufacturer in the biasing procedure. These thermal subtleties seem to be lost on a great many engineers, and a manufacturer's audiophile "brand reputation" seems to have very little correlation with competency in this area.

As far as offset goes, most modern amps *shouldn't* exhibit a change in distortion performance as a result of an offset adjustment. But many early solid-state designs, including the GAS amps, don't have a current-mirror on the input diff-amp, which means that the balance of quescient current between the diff-amp pair is highly dependent on component tolerances . . . and offset adjustment. And even-order distortion products rise pretty quickly as the diff-amp becomes unbalanced.

With a distortion analyzer, oscilloscope, and a bit of experience, one can easily see the different effects of different distortion mechanisms on the amplifier as a whole. But without this, you're pretty much just "stirring the soup" of whatever flaws the amplifier has, and getting whatever floats to the top.