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Wow Windows Vista sounds sooo much better

I just installed Vista. I was not happy with the sound I was getting from my benchmark dac1. This thing got such great reviews but it never sounded right to me. It was way to soft with some voices and drums. Like there was this huge suckout. It drove me nuts. Certain ranges were way to low and behind a vail. I knew this coundn't be right. I could never get into the music enough.

Foobar2000 and Asio was better than not having it. But not what it should be. I did every thing. I did the whole asio, kernal streaming, asio4all, bitmatched, etc. Checked all settings. Tried different digital cables. Messed with EVERYTHING in my drivers and foobar2000.

As a last ditch effort before selling the DAC I thought I'd try Windows Vista. After all I knew Microsoft completely revamped its audio section. No more k-mixer was the big plus. Sounded good on paper anyway.... but lets see if it was truely implemented well.

I get home, install Vista (clean install). Go through all the settings first. Turn off any extra junk that comes turned on with the x-fi drivers.

Went to windows settings.... how pleasantly surprised to find setting for 24 bit, 96 khz setting (and any other settings too).

Went to foobar2000... how pleasantly surprised to find an option for "spdif out". That option allows for direct by-pass now. No longer routing through anything in windows. I tried this but it was full blast. I needed a volume control though. Again pleasantly surprised that using windows Vista volume sounds just as amazing. No loss in quality what so ever.

I no longer need any special asio drivers, or kernal streamers or any of that junk. I can now use all my audio and video apps and have just as great of sound.

I'm really floored what a difference Vista makes. All the power and dynamics and soundstage is there. Just how it should sound. A big thumbs up to microsoft for fixing all tha was wrong with xp's sound. I highly recommend upgrading. Thumbs up!
kacz
kana813
956 posts
 
You don't need to change your USB interface with Vista,
but it may not pass 24/96, so you couldn't use Vista's upsampler.
jc51373
536 posts
 
"ou don't need to change your USB interface with Vista,
but it may not pass 24/96, so you couldn't use Vista's upsampler."

One should NOT just accept that 24/96 upsampling will always sound better. Quite honestly, in most of the lower quality DAC implementations this is quite the opposite.

Simply adding random bits doesn't always contribute to the transfer of information from the analog input signal to the digital out, thus carrying no sonic content. Because ultimately the criteria for quality of the converter bits depends wholly on the converter linearity, and with a linear circuit this will insure proper transfer from input to output. Thus retaining the sonic detail and benefits of up converted bits.

In the end the technical difficulty of retaining the linearity grows with each additional bit added, particularly when dealing with everyday engineering formulas and standards. In production-based implementations like the aforementioned equipment, with commodity based DAC chips, this is often the case, with a sonic result that does not sound anything close to music.
kana813
956 posts
 
"One should NOT just accept that 24/96 upsampling will always sound better."

One should not comment on things they haven't heard.
jc51373
536 posts
 
thats funny, cause I own an upsampling player in my home theater system. But maybe you interested in stopping-by to blow the dust of it for it me? Oh no wait...My Cosecant does that daily.

Nice try though. : )
kana813
956 posts
 
Jeff-

You really need to learn how to read.

My comments to Cwlondon were about using Vista's upsampler, which you haven't tried.

Have a nice day.
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