Help....I have a blank slate and am flying blind


I am not an audiophile and am trying to get my arms around the whole thing - quickly. The water is deep. I've never had a nice system and am buying a new house. At the expense of all furniture, I want to rig the place for sound to the chagrin of my wife (who hopefully will not discover this post) and 4 kids (though the kids may well opt for music over furniture):

I basically want the system to be PC driven, but also have a couple of components that I would like to include (Teac H500 CD recorder/player and XM receiver). I have at least 4 rooms to rig and am shooting for low to mid-level audiophile grade.

I am thinking of setting the system up something like this: (but am missing a few pieces, which is where I need guidance):

750 GB external hard drive (just purchase new) --> P4 laptop computer (just puchased used) --> DAC (perhaps HAGUSB and/or something else --> cheap/decent receiver (need to purchase or perhaps a pre-amp with A and B channels):

A channel (for room 1) --> good amp (need to purchase - perhaps simaudio i-3) --> totem hawk speakers (just puchased);

B channel (for 3 other rooms) --> cheap amp (need to purchase) --> russound 10 speaker selector (just purchased) --> 8 inferior speakers in 3 different rooms (have them);

The critical threshold at this point is PC to receiver or pre-amp. I use iTunes and have a ton of music in Apple Lossless format, so compatability is an issue I think. My sense is to avoid a wireless connection and soundcards (I've heard they are inferior), so I think I need some sort of DAC, which is where I get off the bus.

I was looking at a HAGUSB (Hagerman Technologies - under $100.00) and a squeezebox ($299 model). The thing I don't like about the squeezebox is it appears that I would have to control it through their box and not through the PC/iTunes. If possible, I'd like to simply use the laptop as the the control center with iTunes as the interface (if that is the right word). I'd rather not spend more than a few hundred dollars on a DAC (I still have to purchase two amps, a receiver or pre-amp, wire, connectors, protectors, rack, etc.)

The second (less critical) threshold is choice between a receiver and a pre-amp. I suppose I could buy a cheap but decent receiver with an A/B channel, but I don't think I want the music filtered through a receiver. Is there a pre-amp with an A/B selector that I could raise the roof by selecting both A and B? This may affect the DAC connection decision from the PC. I have a couple of other components I want to include (CD player and XM receiver) so maybe I have no choice but a receiver - maybe I just answered my own question. You can see I am processing.

Long way to the short question: What is the best way to get from the PC (via usb?) to a receiver or pre-amp in a way that is both compatible with iTunes and would be considered "acceptable" from an audiophile standpoint at a reasonable cost (under $400.00)?

Any assistance is appreciated. Please respond in crayon and do not use "big" words.
graves
If I'm interpreting all this right, you may also want to check out the Squeezebox (may be two words). It does a nice job either wired or wirelessly transmitting PC based music to your preamp. It's got a reasonably good DAC built in. You get a bigger boost by using a separate DAC but you don't need to go there right away. Good luck.

P.S. I'm not sure if it works with iTunes but you can look that up on their website.
If everything goes through the pre-amp, don't get cheap here. If you get a multizone pre like an Anthem or Sunfire, you will be set. Most good receivers will work but, it takes a lot to make Totems go...
For zone 2, most 80-100 watt amps will work. No junk though or you will have issues down the road. Get something that can always be on. If it is going to be out of sight/mind, something with a cooling fan is ideal. Also, you will need something to control this sound from other rooms unless you want to keep having to run to the main room. Go look at what dealers are pushing, Niles, Xantech...
If you want iTunes, the just buy several AirPort Expresses from apple.com, put them in each room and get a good glass-fiber Toslink cable for each. Then run this Toslink to some inexpensive digital receivers, like the Panasonic SA-XR57. For your "good" system you can use a better DAC, like the Northstar 192, Benchmark DAC-1 BelCanto DAC3 or Lavry. If you want it even better, reclock the Toslink with a Pace-Car reclocker and then send to the DAC's above with S/PDIF coax.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio
Manufacturer
Hmmm. I was quite satisfied with the two words: Viola and WMB54G. Now we seem to have introduced a few competing words, namely: (1) Squeezebox (w/built in DAC); (2) AirPort Express; and (3) a better DAC (Northstar 192, Benchmark DAC and BelCanto DAC3).

Squeezebox sounds appealing and has great reviews, but I think I would have to run the system off of the their "box" and not the iTunes profile, which would seem to cut the PC monitor, keyboard and mouse out of the picture. Sounds like that might add a level of complexity, but maybe not. I could be off base here - don't really know.

The BelCanto DAC3 is a notch above for sure at $1800.00. I think I saw a used BelCanto DAC1 for about $350.00. I wouldn't mind springing for that I suppose, but frankly, I'm not sure exactly how the external DAC rig would work and whether it would be any better than -- say -- a WMB54G (wired via ethernet). This may be where the rubber meets the road: Would a BelCanto DAC3 at $1800 sound 18 times better than a WMB54G at $100, or would a used BelCanto DAC1 at $400 sound 4 times better than the WMB54G (wired via enternet), or would a Squeezebox (may be two words) at $300 sound 3 times better than a WMB54G?

This is where my ignorance shines best: I'm don't understand the difference between an external DAC (like a BelCanto device) and something like a WMB54G or Squeezebox (with built in DAC). The PC/receiver connection seems critical, so I'm willing to go $300 or $400 I suppose, but I'm not sure what I'm getting. I'm not really ready to go $1800 for BelCanto DAC3 at this point.

Elevick, I will not go for junk on the amp and will sufficiently power the totem hawks - thinking of simaudio i-3 specifically dedicated to the hawks. I think I just need power for the other speakers, so maybe an old integrated NAD or somesuchthing. Still hung up on the PC/receiver bridge....

I haven't even stuck my big toe in the water yet, so maybe a starting point would be the WMB54G (I have no comparative bias so won't know any better) and then upgrade at some point to a good used external DAC. But if there is an absolute marked difference in sound quality with better DAC, I'll skip the intro/entry level and move up a notch past the WMB54G.

I'm wondering whether this is really about sound quality, or, rather, finding something that works without bridge/conversion glitches. I have read about "jitters" but I have no idea what that means. If an upgrade from a WMB54G to a squeezebox or used BelCanto DAC1 reduces sound glitches or results in better sound quality, then it's probably worth $200 from the outset if I'm going to spend it anyway. Or perhaps these are apples and oranges.
Difficult to discuss/compare/decide when I'm still flying blind....

I must say, Viola and WMP54G sounded big. It works and sounds great. However, the learning curve is quite steep here and I am so new that my mom is actually typing this for me.

Thanks for all the insight.

G
If you want iTunes, the just buy several AirPort Expresses from apple.com, put them in each room and get a good glass-fiber Toslink cable for each.

Can you stream audio from iTunes simultaneously to several Airport Express? (this may be a weakpoint of this suggested setup...)