Novice needs Mac Mini and DAC advice


Stereo Boys, I really really need some advice. In the past 18 months, I've loaded all in on this hobby and in that short time span have gone from birth to a full blown, fairly high end system and now I'm integrating a Mac Mini server into the mix. My mind is blown with too much information and I'm losing it over which DAC will give me the best bang with a budget anywhere from $800 to $4000. I'm told that the Ayre and Wavelength don't really outperform the lower cost DACs by a huge margin. I need a shot of the truth. And I'm looking for plug and play. I'm not that conversant with all the technical science involved in all of this. I just want a clean, high res sound. Please help!!
moonshot
So Moonshot, which Bob from Seattle radio are you? I grew up here listening to all the Rock stations and not too many of the Jocks are still around. Hope your doing well in whatever you're doing now, radio seems like a hard core business to me.

Oh, and you are going in the right direction with a macmini and good dac. I'm currently using a M2tech Hiface Evo for conversion into my Havana Dac. It's a wonderful sounding dac that has gotten rave reviews over the last few years. I just ordered the Metrum Octave which has also gotten tons of good press. They are selling them from the factory right now for several hundred dollars under the going rate of $1100.00 dollars until they are gone because the new model just came out. Check out the reviews on this site and others. You have gotten some really good advice on this thread, but the main thing is to enjoy the music and keep rockin.

Take Care,

Greg
Moonshot,

Don't be surprised that people here give a lot of good advice to total strangers - that is what this is all about! Later, also remember to come back and share your knowledge with total strangers :-)

I've been using this forum to learn a bunch as I slowly get into computer audio. Computeraudiophile.com is also a great source.

My first step was getting a Squeezebox Touch, since it was just $300 and I had no dedicated computer. It allowed me to delve into computer audio, and learned how tweaking the Touch improved sonics.The DAC inside the Touch isn't great, though, so eventually was the time for a DAC.

Four months ago I got the Metrum Octave, which I really enjoy. My "strategy" is to work my way upstream: next get a USB to S/PDIF converter, then a computer and playback software, tweaks, etc. but if I stopped now it would still be the best sound I ever had at home. The USB to S/PDIF converter will likely be an Audiophilleo, as it's very highly regarded, runs on Linux (important with the Touch), and also runs in integer mode (important if going down the mini route later on).

BTW, you might want to consider just getting a USB>SPDIF converter and using it with your mini and Musical Fidelity M1 you inherited. Steve continuously says reducing jitter is more important than the DAC you use, and that converter is the one to reduce jitter. An Audiophilleo 2 with PurePower will cost you about $1k, is said to be up there with the best converters, and might be all you need for now. From what I read, getting "bit perfect" data stream out of your computer might be as important, so choosing the right software for your mini might be the second-most important thing to do. And maybe choosing a DAC is third, considering you have one already.

Sorry for the long-winded post. I hope it helps!
Bob,

I forgot to mention, if you still live in the Seattle area you are welcome to listen to my mac mini going into my M2Tech Hiface USB/SPDIF converter and then into my Dac. I don't have the Metrum Octave yet but it should be here any day.

Take Care,

Greg
Greg,

Congrats on purchasing the Octave. It's probably the greatest value product I've owned through the years. I tried the M2Tech but ultimately returned it. I'm currently using the Audiophilleo 2 with the Metrum.
Gregfisk (Greg)
Thanks for the response. I'm taking off on my kid's Spring Break but certainly might take you up on the offer after returning to the area on the 14th. I'm actually in Sammamish -

-Bob