I fell victim to a scam


I purchased a piece of audio equipment from an Audiogoner with 0 feedback. The Paypal account was unverified as well. I thought, "I was a newbie once, everyone has to start someplace". I've performed dozens of internet transactions and have never been burned, until now.

I received a tracking number "billing information received"... But no product was ever shipped. I was burned out of a decent amount of cash. I won't starve, but I'm pissed. Paypal was useless in helping. They basically told me that Paypal protects Paypal. Audiogon does not disclose account information either.

I have started a police investigation, and they have obtained a search warrant to get the address and bank records of the seller. I'm not holding my breath to catch him though.

If he (or she) is an amateur, then the bank records may lead me to him. If he is a pro, then I guess there is a way to launder the cash.

I mean, Paypal either wires the money to his bank, or cuts him a check. Is there a way to track this? Any Lawyers out there want to chime in?

Part of me is tempted to spend the money to find this person (or people) and prosecute. Am I spinning my wheels?

As I search through other Audiogon adds, I see other suspicious deals. Zero feedback, too good to be true deals. Obviously, I'll do my homework next time...
the_lanman
Did you fund it through a cc? If so, then do a "charge-back" through your cc company.
Sorry to hear of your problem. I had one similar problem, I received the item damaged, not in as stated condition. Paypal was of no help whatsoever. AudiogoN helped a little, but thank goodness I used a credit card on that purchase. The credit card bank saved the day. They took the charge off of my card and had me send the defective unit (which the seller refused to take back) to Paypal. That left me and the CC bank out of the loop. The problem was then between Paypal and the seller.

If I had not used a CC, I would have been screwed out of some big $$$.

It's a jungle out there, and one does need to walk carefully. I will now only use cash on large purchases that do not require shipping. I'll drive 100 miles or more to go check out/pick up. If it's big money and further away, I use a credit card. It's your only protection.

John
0 Feedback on the Audiogon resume = no deal for me. No matter how enticing, unless they are willing to send me the item, first, and wait on me for the $$.
I got burned once on PP, but strangely so, and not through A'gon. Small amount of cash, but goods never sent, no contact from seller. I initiated a PP dispute and eventually they took money out of his account and put it back in mine--I only got back about 75%, but counted myself lucky. To this day I have no idea why he didn't empty his bank account before the dispute deadline was over. So, not only was I cheated, I was cheated by an moron.
Why did you not leave negative feedback for that seller?

PayPal will not help if you actually receive goods. If the seller misrepresented or if something is broken they are of no help. HOWEVER, if you receive nothing, they WILL help (at least in my experiewnce and of others I've spoken with).