EQ's... why doesnt everybody have one?


Just browsing around the systems on this site, i knoticed that very few have equalizers. I realize some claim they introduce unacceptable noise but i would hardly call my Furman Q-2312, at %>.01 20Hz-40kHz, unacceptable. This $200 piece of equiptment ($100 on sale at musiciansfriend.com) replaces several thousand dollars in assembling a perfectly linear system in perfectly linear room, and in my opinion, accomplishes the task better than any room design could no matter how well engineered. It brought my system (onkyo reciever, NHT SB-3 speakers and Sony CD changer) to a level i could not have dreamed. It extends the SB-3's frequency response by at least 10 Hz to a satisfying 30 Hz without any rolloff or sacrifice in clarity, but the greatest improvement was definately in the Mid-range, around the SB-3s crossover frequency of 2.6kHz. The clarity of vocals, strings, guitars, brass... anything in this range rivals that of uneq'd systems costing well into the thousands of dollars... my total cost; $800. One of the more supprising differences is a marked improvement in immaging, it think this might have to do with eliminating several resonances in the right channel caused by my back wall (the left back wall has a curtain over it). The second my dad heard the difference he got on my computer to buy one for himself, he couldnt even wait to get back to his own, he then kicked me outa the listening chair and wouldnt get up for the better part of an hour.
-Dan-
dk89
Jafox, you should carefully re-read your next to last paragraph. There's talk of dimensionality, resolution and soundstaging, but absolutely nothing said about musicianship, arrangements or songwriting. It's not your music system, but the value system you bring to listening that is making certain recordings unlistenable. You're doing it to yourself.
Jafox..I have read that certain specific frequency bands, boosted and/or cut, have the effect of enhancing "decays,ambience, harmonic textures" and (one you forgot) a sense of height. I wonder if the recording engineers who made the LPs that you like manipulated their equalizers (which they surely had on line) so as to satisfy your ear?
Well thanks Eld. and Onhwy, for catching on to what concerned me. "Unlistenable" is a strong word if ITS your favorite music, that's like having an ulcer and your favorite food is Mexican.

I don't want to go too far into this if it was just a misunderstanding on the semantic level, but I if your truly reducing a significant amount of your recordings to truly "unlistenable" then I'll expand, because my experiences disagree with what you're experiencing if we are on the same semantic level. Your reply seems to actually fit Onhwy's post that your high standards could be at fault in my misunderstanding.

Eldartford also points out a whole other can of worms.
Onhwy brings up a point which I understand well here. The term "unlistenable" was indeed overly harsh on my point. Yes, it is a matter of semantics and taking things literally. A better way for me to have said this would have been, "less desirable". I listen too all of my music otherwise I pass it on to local used shops to buy other music. Let's face it: what we may have liked so much before is not necessarily what we are "into" today. But clearly, some of my music gets more attention because it does draw me more into the performance.

I remember so vividly one night when I put on a Rush LP I had not listened to for a year or two. There was simply so much more going on in the background with the percussion that I had not heard before in my home with this song which I do not recall the title. I had seen Rush twice in concert and knew Neil Pert's talent. But it was that night that brought this talent to the forefront in my home. It's all about the emotional involvement here and it was right there for me that instant. Up to that time, the sound was just that, sound. Now I had a master percussionist in my room.

As for Eldartford's comment, hopefully the recording engineers did not manipulate the result to compensate for the mass-market of listening devices that severely clip off the top octaves. Obviously many musicians out there take great pride in the sonic quality of their product as their recording quality are excellent time after time and often it's a very different recording engineer and/or studio that made each product. They simply go the extra mile to more accurately simulate the real performance rather than push the guitar to one channel only, the keyboards to entirely the other channel and calling it a day; and all we end up hearing is a severely poor facsimile of the real thing. If this is the case, a Bose Wave radio is all I need to hear my favorite music and there's no need for me to call on the services of professionals like Cinematic_systems to help me place my speakers, deal with room nodes, reflections, etc.

There are many threads on A'gon that discuss the improvements of re-released material simply for the sake of the recording quality. I have to believe this is because the sonic quality indeed plays a part to one's enjoyment of the music.

As for mexican food and ulcers, well this hits home for me. I lived in Tucson for many years and absolutely loved the food. But 15 years later, I love it as much but the heartburn kicks in an hour or so later. Oh the perils of getting old.

John