Any exp. w/ Shunyata Dark Field Cable Elevators

Davt, just an fyi if you don't mind, since you've taken the time to share your strong opinion.

The DFE's are made largely of conductive foam, which is in no way considered a "cheap" material by those that use it to ship electronic parts. There is also a mold involved in their manufacture, and other stiff foam material that forms the core part of the DFE.

Raw material costs for the DFE's are well above our normal x5 production to retail ratio, and there is the cost of packaging, support, documentation etc. Of course the final price includes some small measure of development expense, overhead, economy of scale etc.

I understand how you came to your judgement by mere appearance. However, none of our products are cheaply made, run off spools or or grossly overpriced based on our costs to produce them. I don't mind people having preferences or valuing a competitors less expensive product, but it has _nothing_ to do with us overpricing anything we make.

From your description, you must think of us living the high life with Regis, rather than in the reality of a small dedicated business with a commitment to delivering high quality products and service.

Regards,

Grant
Shunyata Research

It had to do with the coating reacting with the cables. I do not know all of the reasons. I used his tweak and did notice an improvement in the imaging.

Grant, can you elaborate on why the conductive material is better than using an item intentionally made to remove the cable from the static field? I read your web page info but I would appreciate any further info you can offer here relating to why this product is better than others.

--Also, can you put a simple answer to this question? If I am currently using another elevator made of wood or ceramic or plastic and I replace them with DFEs... Will I hear an improvement in the sound of my set up?

Thank you and I will look forward to hearing your response!
Chris.

My only purpose here was to address ill informed comments about the price and manufacturing cost of our products based on what I know to be true. I don't want to get into product comparisons and tech descriptions related to our products in a commercial forum as that seems out of line with the purpose of the forum.

If you have specific product or technical questions for us, feel free to contact us directly and we'd be happy to answer your inquiry via phone or e-mail.

Regards,

Grant

Grant, I don't know what living the high life with Regis would be so I really cannot comment. Do I think that your company is actively out to rob people, of course not. Do I like your products, well Gemini speaker cables, Aries interconnects, Python and Tiapan VX powercords, Hydra 6, well I think I do. Do I think that sometimes we, ( the entire audiophile community) chase the Holy Grail, absolutely. Is there a benefit to these Dark Field Elevators, I don't know. I thought when I spent the extra for better cables I would get good clean energy to my system. It is a little disappointing to find out that my several thousand dollars worth of cables isn't enough and to get the real best out of my system I will need to spend more $$$. Will I need a Cable Elevator Isolator's at some point in the future to optomized my Elevator's?

I am sorry that I picked on your company, and I mean that sincerley. I think that Shunyata is one of the most researched, highest standard companies in the Audio Industry. I just get a little frustrated with the idea that I need to buy something new to really get the best out of my system and that no matter what I do, tomorrow I will need to do something more. So, with that being said, and with my foot planted firmly in my mouth, I will talk to my local shunyata dealer, order a full set of the Dark Field Elevators and put them in my system to try. I have been pleased with your companies products in the past and I perhaps should have thought of that prior to my snap reaction.
David