A full range speaker?

bache366 posts07-18-2021 8:10pm@mozartfan
I did not see Tang Band  in you list , this is the Best

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You know I came across this driver, and did some reserach,,then for some reason did not like the voicing ona  YT video,, But as we just learned, YT vids do not tell the whole story, as my recent experience in  The Vox Project has proved.
So here is the 8 incher,, from my fav YTer Hifier, This guy is the best on youtube , He knows his stuff and presents it clearly and HONESTLY. 
I  only wish I could be where he is at in testing high fidelity components.
Here is his demo of the TB 8.. 
I am glad you mentioned the TB's, as i was very close to ordering the DavidLouis 6.5.
Not sure what the specs are on this TB8, and more important price, As the Vox Project set me back $800+
= I'm running out of cash...
Lets take a  closer look at the TB
DavidLouis offers 3 different designs in the 6.5.
Now i have to think things over........

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeWdxE7qED0&t=115s
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Just took a  look at the TB8, 
I like the looks/build of the DL's better + 
TB8's $315 each
vs
DL 6.5 $400/pair
I'm staying with DavidLouis,just not sure which of the 3 models I should go with. My guess is the bigger brother to the 4 that I have and really like. 

@mozartfan.     You looks for specs, is good ,but not 100% informalities, I have huge experience in TB , use in my production line . TB 8" with regular magnet 2145 , remove Whizzer cone
This driver cost about $100  but have bamboo fiber enforcement cone, Very linear 400-8000HZ

csmgolf687 posts07-18-2021 4:53pmThankfully, you are not in charge of anything. Go on, keep throwing money at this trying to cobble together something without ANY clue as to what you are actually doing. It is great entertainment watching you fumble around cluelessly. If you had saved all of the money you have blown in the last couple of months flailing about, you could have actually bought something that sounds good, designed by someone that actually knows what they are doing. By all means though, carry on.

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I think you have a  mis-understanding about my speakers,,,
I like the bass from the W18's,,although as you will hear in the YT vid below,, the bass does in fact, when the W18's are isolated, I seem to hear a  certain **flabbiness* to the bass.
That may NOT have been there pre adding 4uf in the Thor xover design in the bass.
Original Thor 8uf. 
I havea  10uf and just added a  2.2 uf. 
I am going to tech today and have him remove the 2.2 Mundorf SESGO ($100m each, came out the Millennium xover), 
I figured lets xover the W18 even lower, with the 10uf, crossed like 1200hz, now crosses 800hz/
WHat I think is going on, is the W18's are being asked to respond to a  much lower fq , and they are getting all flabby.
 The video was orginally intended to be short , only showing the W18's in action,,But the Sony battery kept going and going,,so i brought in the DL 4 inch and also shows my paper tweet in action.

You don't have to stay to the end. As it is over 30 minutes.
I'd say my sound is good, 
At least, the coloration/distortion factors are very very low = no fatigue
Only in big orch sections do we hear stress in the DL4.
I am talking with ebayer now, not sure to go with his white wood cone 8 inch or yellow wood 6.5 cone 
Both have Neo magnets. 
If these larger cones hold up under huge orch fq attacks, , then I can say I have a  real 1st class speaker.
Sure I spennt on the experiementaions past year. 
But in the end,  it may all be worth it. 
Just have to doge the wife flack attacks, now and then
;-)),, or really :-((

Can't leave comments as YT has me CANCELED due to my comments in the 1st few days  of the cv19 thing. Comments section is PERMANENTLY closed off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIn2tfYCjK8

@bache , you are absolutely correct. Except for me there is no regular listening. I think you mean for background music like in the office. Then I am really not listening. But, when I am listening everything matters. I want to close my eyes and be transported to the venue real or fabricated. 
This will not happen without bass. Otherwise, you are correct. Speaker systems will not do it and really should not try. It does take large or multiple drivers. The smallest I would ever use is 10" but I greatly prefer 12". Four 12" drivers should do it in most home situations but if you have the room for larger enclosures 15" is fine. I have no trouble getting down to 10 Hz If I want to with four 12" drivers but I put a very steep digital subsonic filter at 18 Hz. Even with this filter the whole house sings. Glasses, dishes, pots and pans rattle. Mirrors shake and siding buzzes. Fortunately, you can not hear it all in front of the system. Masking is a beautiful thing.

There are several personal "don't buy under any circumstance" issues. 
 #1) Never buy a ported subwoofer. Power and digital EQ are a much better way to deal with frequency response. Port noise at very low frequencies is unavoidable.
 #2) Never by a driver with a whizzer cone. It is a sure fire way to ruin high frequency detail. The best tweeters are ribbons and ESLs. If you want a full range speaker an ESL is the only way to fly.