Affordable vs. ultra expensive speakers - what's the difference?


Candidate 1: Affordable at about 3K

 

Candidate 2: Ultra expensive at 50K.

 

So what's the difference?

andy2

 or those awful Volti's. 

This is what makes talking about this hobby rather than just listening to our systems so fun-divergent opinions. I don't own Voltis or AN's, but do own a pair of O/93's. I very much like my O/93's but don't love them. The midrange is compromised to a minor degree, but the more you listen to them (the more I listen to them) the more apparent the flaw is. But as to the Rivals, you are the first I have seen to call them "awful". Where did you hear them, which models, and with what ancillary gear? At Axpona it was Rival's tried and true partnership with Border Patrol and Triode Wire Labs and they were the deluxe version of the Rivals with exterior crossovers. If you had heard this set-up and if you had tastes that are even remotely similar to my own, the criticism would be that the sound is a bit unrefined and shouty, something akin to listening to audio through a set of a rock band's Gibson stack of stage monitors up on stage. But they were so "alive" in way that very few loudspeakers are and I thought the sound was refined in a different way than we normally think of with the word "refined"-the sound was organic and natural despite being a bit raw and shouty. If the number one rule of Fight Club is to not talk about Fight Club, the number one rule of loudspeakers is that there are always compromises. 

@cakyol 

The difference = a lot of money for about 2-5% improvement in sound.....

The curve of diminishing returns.

As I said earlier, while this curve does exist, it is highly subjective, and is different, sometimes drastically so, for everyone. 

For some people, even people that can't afford the difference in money, that 2-5% difference you posit, may actually stick out like a sore thumb.

Some aspect of audio reproduction, that you may find inconsequential, for others, may be one of the things they place at very high importance. And of course. vis versa.

Remember, the vast majority of music listeners use $20 ear buds, to listen to MP3's, on their smart phones. Or they listen to all their music on their Alexa, or similar while at home.

I am sure a substantial percentage of them think that those of us here, who have modest systems, no where near the very high end, are at the extreme end of that curve of diminishing returns you mentioned. 

But as to the Rivals, you are the first I have seen to call them "awful". Where did you hear them, which models, and with what ancillary gear?

I haven’t heard them nor am I apt too. I haven’t heard Border Patrol either nor am I apt too.

I could use DSP and EQ the crap out of them so perhaps awful is to strong a word, maybe extremely nonlinear is what I should have said.

I haven’t heard them nor am I apt too. I haven’t heard Border Patrol either nor am I apt too.

I could use DSP and EQ the crap out of them so perhaps awful is to strong a word, maybe extremely nonlinear is what I should have said.

Mind blowing. First your grasp or lack thereof of basic English. You misspelled "to" and "too" twice in a row. Zero for two. Or "too" in your world. Second, making such a bold statement about components you have never heard.