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Hello everybody 

I am an analog lover (no CD nor streaming at all). For about 20 years now I have a TW Acustic Raven AC, with 2 SME 3012-R tonearms. One for the stereo and one for the monos. The TW evolved with the battery PSU, and heavy platter form the Black Night, and the 3 motors in a round shape.

I listen mainly classical music and a bit of jazz music. 
I read many threads on forum and TW is never talked about. My TTIs 20 years old now and as I am turning old too, maybe I look for what would be my last TT ( the famous « last one » before being retired with not enough money for climbing the audiophile mountain again.

I have no preferences for any technology as long as it makes good music. I can buy used or vintage (if professionally restored). 
I can go up to 20000 € max. I need the possibility of 2 arms, or one classical and enough room for a Viv Lab.

My little list is 

- Kuzma Red 2 or Stabi M

- Verdier La Platine

-SME 20 or an old 30

- Brinkmann 

-Shoppered TD124 ?

-   What else ?

Thanks for your suggestions. As you understand I live in Europe. How do you quote TW now in regards of these pretenders ? 

senza
drbond
422 posts
 

Sounds like you're looking at about the same options as I was.  Here's an extensive thread that outlines some options:

Audiogon Discussion Forum

elliottbnewcombjr
5,471 posts
 

don’t forget about a dust cover

chakster has/had two of these beautiful Luxman PD444 Two Arm TT’s,

https://www.ebay.com/itm/154633905385?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2400e624e9:g:iWoAAOSwt0phVxrY&amdata=enc%3AAQAGAAACsPYe5NmHp%252B2JMhMi7yxGiTJkPrKr5t53CooMSQt2orsStEKTPzZMfQmny3knR97t0CtpEAugVQSMuTnThSgTZtNOEpYPyY3qqXzHFvLyzb2ksjzVgu0bh652fyLnYRmj1ZhLFgQTVx%252BW%252FYXbXlnIv3br2mm%252F9b8BLpvv3cUcXTwCeWbyBq0b0Zw80ziEljY8xE864WZtmZ4c4Rh3BPwIc9MElvderRZhAQ1w251lAWh9k0I4emcaIbT29JTqhyBz47rzXguft7ig%252BOWeGtyhCAFAmE%252Bb1XWBbbow9Q9QQ3%252FQ2ZYHLtq4x9p7mjjZeYb4zh4TzALqKE4BKM8XNfsXWJPmthEtFw97OXfuVIx7qdSgbJ8t47W0w75JBZaOAySo2sh%252BuCJrQ7H%252Fa7rTuBqBsk5gkDkK8UgMRuxulYqf7I0TnmkP5dvuoTt6AjHfzm9AZ5PdZ5Bh5SD%252BzIlzoRqTgQ0nL7%252FkaRE1%252BZhZCsrOtkEKqNbKcDr2lnWNFgnj6R9fBE34dTiBRUxuJSssvqQ9AJ98NG4S4AkuGTLxC3Q3i94XqXa0tXistnkE4ltiNPHEX97u5xtus%252BfXIoftBSu%252F00RwXM4UeCKL0FXBTg3Yyg2KGDbLTwb1RBMNTWZQuf9%252FMgtblSRGrCJEpnK%252BFs5FynhXrX0BZLSjrgLVWOfsetzwyFuG0U5KrHUmIlrFlxbRyMu4Z%252Bdgp9XRujjxtR%252BcuLqCqDDNiarw5CMNL9Pkz0NtBxg6NovsFf8bhub5d38I1Q7xGWVsx7q3Krh0iq%252FWDaCTyPtLunJZ5RQv7n8NPMPweo4BgT4x6uOLr%252Bw3B6NHLVoATFsFvFvIq41BTDN16SgFMX4mY5H9jMoUC%252BjyT5yKnNPcOC62tEUKPl6DepNQMDB34jcKQTKJqZYshlwKipE%253D%7Cclp%3A2334524%7Ctkp%3ABFBMuvqH3cNf

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I had more depth, not enough width available.

I went for a Vintage JVC Victor Large Plinth CL-P2 with TWO removable arm boards, Plinth is unique: 7 layers

’expired’, Eugene may relist it. gives you lots of info

 

 

 

you pick your arms, long on right, one of the two with removable cartridge and easily adjustable VTA is nice.

fits several of their Direct Drive Spinners,

TT61 (not quartz locked)

TT71, TT81 (mine), both quartz locked.

TT801, vacuum platter, ultimate bragging rights, often need work I have read, not for me.

 

Next, I squeezed a 3rd arm on the left side, got greedy, too clever, probably should have stayed at 2. On the other hand, I am ready for MM to avoid wear on MC, and Stereo/Mono instantly during a listening session.

12.5" arm MC Stereo on right

9" rear, removable headshell, VTA on the FLY, MM Stereo, or any pre-mounted in a headshell

9" compact Mono on left side

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SUT with 3 switchable inputs, 4 optional loads/x-factors/impedances; PASS for MM.. out to single beloved MM Phono Input.

Mine is Fidelity Research FRT-4.

 

Entre ET-100 has similar features

https://www.ebay.com/itm/313807985445?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item491069db25:g:6qcAAOSwtwphyE~z&amdata=enc%3AAQAGAAACkPYe5NmHp%252B2JMhMi7yxGiTJkPrKr5t53CooMSQt2orsSB0Xm7k0guzAysaIMfJcbBORoqbvUIuhiMG6RFasM6O4FJbCywD7AUBmDRBHGxJMA7NmX9oHgmZ8xyyzpfe%252FK14%252BiEU%252FzHKsVx3NAif1H535vB3Bi15f12PeuYbBA8sGIFJfqx%252BQcigol7hK%252Fc9t%252FmOv0qs4YMtQiY8HvlkJ%252FpRmrXkTgCNJbsXyix2t%252BtFIM21DQv%252F4%252B2DMKRPu0dOxPORzE7rVDy3RyyNlWr%252FNCggMwHsEIrVew%252FqPuhsJDpuy77OJLZlY5J5V5IuTQ2K4eKjovCP9IzcC5AifEpZlOxnEGTlqwA%252Bb9bWtL5spdLBfszJzcy9ee%252BT6KxKesYtLMDWzZs5wbaFcH3aAIhigKwk1O04LObVw3x7kJUesfqSKBbK32m8n8KY0i2jDd26SpCDCKoriRw0z8qrfapR%252FFpjRkVXFGr8As9bPp8Vb%252Bwr0JK5cCEzjLgPsvhIxSTZKnwOBBk4u8vpncPWvzpKz8NIqPClU4rcYEioiOX5prNOYHi1QOQxVGYxk%252FQlzfa4J2WWyNeVPut8e%252F0ptgdrLNOwlQSCSVbuvuhFeSHnwkc%252F6HVZZXipInrgHbVYH5oNe8rDDpSupeXrcSBShsPmxo%252FK3MeRML6aNNUD%252FNBMJCpUHKOgf7lTeXlv5Iz1WpBglv8GbFgzp7324BtEXLzEXyrs9rXBDsr3YDH5FoR01tEymuZb%252FiZMkwhALiBtDd3p47xejf5Uxms%252BSd3bVz8RSP9WAdxFzJHLT3tI60868BIAKfcZ3SMbxanvdWCKYLBUcW3mjZxAiFaDCc8tm3uOYyLURdXY4elf1aZAE6Jj5M51Iu%7Cclp%3A2334524%7Ctkp%3ABFBM2tHN3sNf

 

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you can see my 3 arm TT here:

 

 

 

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millercarbon
12,531 posts
 

Origin Live. Had a Conqueror arm from like 15 years ago, liked it so much I upgraded to the new Enterprise arm on a new Sovereign turntable. Pretty sure you can get the Sovereign with 2 arms. With your budget you could get a Voyager, fantastic table and definitely can run 2 arms.

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