AFAIK Sasha 2 has just been only recently released?
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Hahahahahahaha......guys audio Always will be a personal matter. If we would have all the same taste, the need for different speakers would not be there. And no english is not my first language. When you have the freedom to hear so many different stuff you can compare a lot more than any customer ever could do. Audio is a very addictive hobby, Always looking for better.... |
03-06-14: BvdimanI heard the new Sasha 2 at a high end mfrs' open house exactly a week before you posted this. The new Sasha 2's were powered by a top line stack of Audio Research tube components. I've heard all the Wilson floorstanders, and multiple versions of some. I've heard the Alexandria X-2 and the XLF, the current Maxx, the Alexia (last year's featured Wilson at this open house), various Watt/Puppies, Sasha W/P, Sophia 2 and 3, and now the Sasha 2. I consider the Sasha 2 to be a significant upgrade (at least) over any previous Watt/Puppy or the first Sasha. I came away feeling much as I had after hearing the $20K more expensive Alexia. Maybe in a side-by-side comparison, the differences might be more obvious, but my emotional response to the music coming from the Sasha 2 was very much like what I'd felt a year earlier with the Alexia, which in turn was knocking on Maxx's door. If you're looking for speakers in the $25-30K range, I highly recommend hearing the Sasha 2s. Also, I have to wonder how many of the Wilson critics and detractors have heard the latest Wilsons driven by tube electronics by ARC or VTL through Transparent Cable? The store that hosts this open house really knows how to set up Wilsons. Plus, Peter McGrath was there as well. They were sourcing the music from LPs on the AMG 12 turntable. |
Regarding the Zellaton comment above, I bought them over the Sasha as the Zellaton speakers have the beauty but the balls as well. The mid-bass hump and tonal problems of Wilson speakers still persist to this day. I listen mostly to rock and the Sasha's were so bloated and uncontrolled that I felt embarrassed for the salesperson. Zellaton has natural bass, the kind you hear in live performances and the timing is correct. I also question a speaker that requires so much to sound good in re setup, recordings, equipment etcÂ…., along with a new model so often... |
just cannot understand why this brand is so popular, imo the sound is absolutely not natural. bass and trebble are pronounced to much and the midrange sounds hollow. this was my experience with the sophia, alexis and sasha. listening for a longer was impossible for me. the recording must be reproduced how it was recorded but not by the taste of "wilson people". the continue proces of launching new models and their webshop makes it all clear; it is all about marketing and selling.( like 80% of the brands) |
Every single brand have their own properties. They choose for it because they think this is the best way to create the most realistic sound.I have my doubts as well. But I think Wilson is a very smart person, also from a commercial point of view. People have the freedom to choose. The question is do people know and understand how to choose? |
Maybe but choosing is often about fooling I am affraid. Look for instance at the prices and looks of cables. In this market people are constantly busy with upgrading which contributes mostly nothing to the enjoyment of listening to music. Wilson speakers sound spectacular in the beginning with a lot of detail ( by lifting the treble) and deep bass ( more then real) and I call this a very colored, unpleasent sound which makes uou tired at the end and seeking for a new wilson speaker. |
From 2005-2007 I did visit many people with sets from 8000 dollar till 180000 dollar. I had about 6 times people with Wilson speakers. A speaker always will be a personal matter. It depends what you prefer. They all had one thing in common. They had acoustic problems with their Wilson loudspeakers. This is a property as well. This is more difficult to solve. In a normal house situation Wilson are not easy speakers to get a good sound and balance. Only 2 times in my life I heard a good balanced demo with Wilson loudspeakers. They are not easy. People who choose Wilson get these difficulties as an extra. You have to deal with it. This cost you time and also more money to get it right. I don't say it is not possible to get it right. It will cost you more time and money. |
I am convinced that most of the problems people hear w/Sashas (or other Wilson speakers) is the setup. Proper positioning, fed by good sources, with reasonable electronics fed by clean power (most critical in my opinion) tightens up the 'bloated bass', and tames the 'sibilant highs'. The 'problem' is that people don't spend the time it takes to set up what is a very transparent transducer. My 2 cents worth. Tom |