Chord M Scaler with HiFi Rose 130 streamer?


Ok my current setup: Bluesound Node X ~Chord Qutest ~Chord M Scaler~ Class (AB D A ) amps ~ Cornwall iv’s ~SVS PB Subwoofer 

Question: member knowledge please if I choose to replace Bluesound Node X with the HiFi Rose 130? 
  The current combination sounds fantastic, but I get some occasional “skips” in the streamed Spotify library. I’m wondering about a couple things then:

1. High 102 db Cornwall sensitivity vs. adding more Hifi Rose RS 130 brilliance in detail possibly negating the M Scaler smoothness?

2. Overkill? Is there significantly MORE to be uncovered between replacing the Node X  with the HiFi Rose 130?

  (Also the Node X is my headphone jack and pairs well with my Focal Elex)

… any opinions are welcome and thank you!

128x128moose89

the one thing that stood out in your post was "spotify".  I'd try Qobuz or Tidal before I changed anything else. 

Streamer is much less important than DAC.  The Qutest is a bountiful performer as it is great and not expensive.   I didn't know you can use M-scaler with it but great that you can.  

Yes, the Node is a relatively low level streamer but I've upgraded my streamer twice since the node, currently using a Grimm, and while you get improvement with improved streamer, I find the streamer makes much less differnce than the DAC.

Now the Grimm has onboard upscaling so I eliminated my M-scaler.  I also moved from the Chord DAVE to a Lampizator at over twice the price.  Recently I had my Lampizator out of service doing some mods on it and the DAVE filled in very, very well.   The whole point of this is that you might get more bang for your buck upgrading your DAC...but the DAC you have is darn good.

I wouldn't worry about "overkill" or "too much smoothness".  I think the skips are from spotify, not your equipment.

You're in a great position, not trying to fix a problem but trying to make a great system even better.

Jerry

moose89, I have to very much agree with @carlsbad2 that at the moment Spotify is your most limiting factor. I think you owe it to yourself to check out a streaming service that streams at CD quality and above.

I had a Chord Qutest in my main rig for a number of years and it is a wonderful piece of kit ... still have it in a second system ... and from everything I've read the M Scaler takes it to another level.

And while I agree that the DAC is of more importance than the streamer, I wouldn't underestimate the importance of the streamer when all is said and done.

My main rig currently features a Hifi Rose RS130 streaming to a Rockna Wavelight, and the RS130 is the best player I've experienced in my system, even better than the very competent Bricasti M5 it replaced. And the M5 was a big step up from my Bluesound kit. And this is not to knock Bluesound, as I have 4 pieces of Bluesound kit scattered about the house and got my start with streaming in 2014 with the original Bluesound Node 100.

(And if interested, I have different iterations of my system available for view on Audiogon)

@moose89 +1 for the better streaming service.

Hifi Rose pieces are in a different league than Bluesound in-terms of industrial design and execution. So take this for what it is - a hack of a mass produced consumer grade product, but I found replacing the internal switching power supply on my Bluesound Node N130 made a very big improvement in sound quality when used strictly as a streamer supporting a Chord Qutest DAC.  I use a Teddy Pardo Dual power supply that supports both the Qutest and the Node with very positive results.

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On question 2.  I upgraded from my Bluesound Node N130 streamer to an Innuos Zen Mk3 streamer and I heard a noticeable difference.  Based on that I think you would hear a difference too moving to the Rose streamer.  Agree that the DAC has more impact on the sound than the streamer in my experience.  If you like the Currant sound of your DAC you should be set.  The Zen Mk3 is just a steamer with no DAC.  Also agree about upgrading your service.  I started with Spotify and tried all of the major services.  Chose Qobuz.  The Sense app Innuos uses works well with Qobuz.  Qobuz had the best combination of music quality with HiRes, selection, ease of use and cost in my experience.  Enjoy your new musical journey!  

+1 upgrade toQobuz and JPLAY iOS, +1 LPS for Node = better combo than new streamer if using Mscaler and Qtest.

Here's yet another vote to move on from Spotify.

I used a M1 Mac Mini to feed my DAC for several years and got some pretty great results. But, of course, everyone says to get rid of the computer (I'm a Roon user) so I tried the Eversolo DMP-A8 and could hear no improvement at all. So I sold it and got the HiFi Rose 130 and holy cow, this was a HUGE improvement. I feel like this unit is often forgotten about here as most will recommend Aurender or Innuos, which I have no doubt are excellent but the RS130 offers fantastic, possibly even transformative sound AND a much nicer and more user-friendly form factor. Also has I2S output, which I'm now a big believer in. If something happened to mine I'd buy another one immediately.

I'm currently running mine into a PS Audio DS Mk 1 and while it sounds really good, I have ordered a May DAC from Holo Audio and expect another big jump in SQ.

I've never heard the "lesser" products from HiFi Rose, which all include a DAC, but I suspect there's something special about the 130.

Trivema & Thank y’all. I’m heading to Ali Express ordering LPS with a Node implementation , and the power supply for $184 for the two. Bypassing the purchase of the HiFi  Rose, I will save $4300-4800 by going with great reviews on the capacitor replacements in the Node X, and keep a great headphone jack in the X!
the MScaler with the Qutest and great tip of joining Qobuz.., all a buzz 🐝 about these great tips. All about the Sound. Exquisite!

@moose89 great, let us know how this works out.  I suggest you not scrimp on the power cable supplying the new LPS.